OH NO!!!! His former coach says his work ethic was "okay"????? That's so much more in depth and hard hitting than film study!!!!
Yeah, if he is as great as bobby says and does not have work ethic problems, than I'm concerned he only had the 3 sacks. I attributed that to a poor work ethic. Otherwise he is just not as good as bobby says.
Or.....you just don't know how football works. Which is fine. I sure hope someone will post another gif of Clowney in a two gap role and call it being "lazy" because he didn't completely disregard his assignment and shoot a gap again, that was fun last time.
Its more about Clowney lacking the lateral quickness and fluidity in his hips. He is good but not as good as what bobby proclaims him to be All you need a strong bruiser of a tackle or guard and they can neutralize him fairly well. Especially at 266 The only way he would be truly effective is at 285-290 lbs
Yeah, I know, for some reason I let Bobby annoy the piss out of me. I was cool with taking Clowney #1 before but he has pretty much turned me off of the idea and I'd rather just trade down for pretty much whatever someone offers.
LOL, so the guy who thinks that Teddy Bridgewater is the next coming of Joe Montana, despite not even being a top 5 prospect in the draft is saying that I'm overrating the consensus #1 pick in the draft? That's funny.
Montana was a frail, injury prone, above average armed 2nd round pick, nothing special about him.:grin: Clowney is hyped to the heights of Reggie White and Peppers and he has no where near the fluidity that those two possess If he was 285-290, I would be aboard the pick. He is undersized for his type of play and pass rushing style
SMH, your ability to spew out one bad sports take after another is legendary. The season can't get here soon enough.
It sure seems like anyone who disagrees with Bobbythegreat just doesnt know anything about football according to Bobbythegreat. smh :/
between he, remii and endofworld the texans forum has been completely sabotaged this offseason. I have literally seen an entire page between the 3 of them (save one message from another user) where my screen was filled with "This user is on your Ignore List." .
Well that's not ALWAYS the case, but it has seemed to be the case most of the times it's happened here. It's not really surprising I guess, this is a basketball site first and foremost.
Ok.. So the Donkey puts me (and others) on ignore and he's still crying about people's post that he can't see like a nagging house wife. What a chump... If Bobby and EndWorld wasn't posting the football side of clutch fans would be dead. Regardless if you like what they say or don't.
You don't think Schaub staying would change anything? I agree, we weren't drafting a QB with our first pick anyway.
Right? Because of his many posts in this thread, i'm starting to think he is the biggest supporter of Bridgewater.
A great read that most here will appreciate, but Bobby will hate: http://threeconedrill.com/2014/03/11/why-id-take-bridgewater-no-1-overall/
http://threeconedrill.com/2014/03/11/why-id-take-bridgewater-no-1-overall/ n offshoot of that argument, one that is rooted in Houston history, is something like: “We picked David Carr No. 1 overall and look how that turned out.” Well, yeah, it went really poorly. But there were a lot of mitigating factors to that situation that don’t exist today. A No. 1 overall quarterback is no longer married to the franchise for years, especially now that the rookie scale has eliminated them from haunting the salary cap for years to come. I will never be leading the David Carr Excuses club — it’s my belief that his pocket presence wouldn’t have played in this league, no matter the team — but part of the reason he played as poorly as he did was that he was on an expansion team with a pretty bad offensive line. Letting the fact that Carr was bad keep you from wanting to select another quarterback first overall would be like never dating again because the first relationship you hopped into was abusive. The second main point I’ve seen revolves around the body type. Bridgewater doesn’t have a “projectable” body, or the classic quarterback build. There are a lot of ways to word this, but since it’s my blog, I will be crude: I don’t give a ****. I mean, yeah, it’d be nice if Bridgewater was 6-foot-5 and built like an Adonis too, but I’m way more concerned with how he plays on the field. I’m no Matt Waldman. I don’t break down college tape for a living — in fact, I think it’s practically impossible to follow both the NFL and college football at similar levels — but the little work I’ve put in on the subject, both with my own eyes and through the eyes of people I trust, suggests that Bridgewater has a chance to be a very special quarterback at the NFL level. If he does that without the ideal body mass index, whatever. We just saw a 5-foot-11 quarterback lead his team to a Super Bowl. (One that is nothing like Bridgewater, admittedly, but my point is that obsessing over body type is a “We’re Not Selling Jeans Here” error, and it’s 2014.) I’ve also heard innuendo that Bridgewater’s interviews weren’t flawless, and that he came off as meek in them. I also don’t care about that. Sign me up for 11 players with that meekness. Mentality matters, but how a player handles his initial failings is more important to me than how rah-rah he is in the locker room. Cam Newton is vocal and pouty and he couldn’t avoid the body language critics either — somehow, I think he still wants to win at football. Just a hunch. Finally, there is the idea that pairing J.J. Watt with Jadeveon Clowney will create the sort of explosive doomsday defense that skeptics were afraid of when the Large Hadron Collider was going full-speed. I can’t deny that this would be fun to watch, nor can I deny that I think Clowney is going to be a very good player at the next level, but I think scouts tend to overrate anything that jumps off the screen that much and not consider the full picture. If you want an NFL example, Percy Harvin was traded for a first-round pick and given an enormous contract by the Seahawks. Injury problems limited him throughout the season — as they often have — and while he appeared in the Super Bowl and returned a kickoff for a touchdown, nobody would tell you that on a seasonal basis, he was worth the investment. That doesn’t mean he won’t be worth it in some future years — he’s a damn good player that presents some unique matchup problems for a defense — but the injury issues and lack of snaps are a part of the total package of his value. You’re rolling the dice on it. If you want a Texans-centric example, Ben Tate has produced highlight reel broken tackles and flashed an amazing size-speed combination that makes scouts drool. On the other hand, his pass blocking is pedestrian, he’s finished two years on IR, his vision comes and goes, and he’s almost a complete zero as a pass-catching back. The whole is less impressive than the 20 best plays, but those 20 best plays are so amazing that scouts are drawn to him. I suspect this would be the end result of a Watt-Clowney pairing. They’d have some plays where they’d make an offense look silly, and they’d have some ridiculous games where they would shut down a poorly-quarterbacked team singlehandedly. But ultimately, they can’t play safety. They can’t make Whitney Mercilus a better pass rusher. They can’t make Brice McCain not be a trainwreck at nickelback. They can’t teach Darryl Sharpton what a seam route is. Hell, the Texans got a vintage J.J. Watt season last year and he couldn’t keep them from going 2-14. Don’t get me wrong, the Texans could really use an outside linebacker that can rush the passer, but if Mercilus had 12 sacks last year, how much would that have swung the bottom line? Would the Texans be a four-win team? Six? To be sure, there’s an inherent risk in selecting somebody No. 1 overall. But the goal isn’t necessarily to minimize that risk, but to find the right balance of risk and reward. If Bridgewater is, as I believe, a top-10 quarterback in this league ultimately, and the Texans can shuttle Matt Schaub’s contract off the books, they are well on their way to the Seattle blueprint of having a lot of money to spend elsewhere in the short-term. If he’s a bust, the Texans lose probably two years, and they likely get another shot at a franchise guy at that point. If they take Clowney, they leap to a six-win team, but now they are going to have to find the most difficult asset to create in the NFL — a good starting quarterback — with lower picks, trades, and free agency. Good quarterbacks are available in free agency only so rarely, and so the Texans find their own Alex Smith, and they are on the path to becoming the new Kansas City Chiefs. Is that something to aspire to? Isn’t that just where they were with Matt Schaub at the end of 2012, before he further declined? There isn’t a more game-changing asset in the NFL at this point than a cost-controlled quarterback that can play with the best quarterbacks in the game. Even if the Texans feel there’s only a 50 percent chance Bridgewater is that good, it will likely be higher odds than they’ll see for a long time. It doesn’t seem like they share that view, or at least there’s been little in terms of media connections to it. Granted, the Texans have thrown a lot of smokescreens around. John McClain’s ratio of calling the 2013 Texans “pathetic” to having to contradict wrong national reports is nearing 1:1. But as someone used to the Kubiak administration’s silence, it’s hard to really have a handle on what this team is doing. All you’ve got is hope. He’s not a sexy pick, he’s not a scout’s pick. But in my mind, he’s the correct one.
