1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

ASPM ranking this season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets2012, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. rockets2012

    rockets2012 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2012
    Messages:
    310
    Likes Received:
    33
    http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/ASPM.html

    http://www.nbastuffer.com/component...tid,42/func,view/term,Statistical Plus-Minus/

     
  2. kwakmeister

    kwakmeister Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    724
    Likes Received:
    548
    Im SPM...
    You know my name...
     
    1 person likes this.
  3. Marsarinian

    Marsarinian Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2006
    Messages:
    2,086
    Likes Received:
    270
    Stopped reading after I saw "using his box score stats as inputs" :rolleyes:
     
  4. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,424
    Likes Received:
    22,560
    trade Dwight for DeAndre and Harden for Kyle Korver
     
  5. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,162
    Likes Received:
    3,366
    I wish they would expand on this. Which particular cases and why is it "might be" better indicator? I think the year-end xRAPM combines the two, in order to weigh both stats and team contribution.

    FWIW, if you add both stats together, RAPM+ASPM, the Rockets players would rank like this

    First number ASPM, second RAPM

    Howard 1.7+2.4=4.1
    Harden 2.0+2.4=4.4
    Parsons 1.6+0.7=2.3
    Beverley -2.9+5.1=2.2
    Jones 0.2+ -2.5= -2.3
    Lin -0.9 + -0.3 = -1.2

    So in conclusion

    Howard and Harden put up massive stats and teams play awesome with them.
    Beverley puts up miniscule box score stats but team play elite with him.
    Parsons is more box score oriented but overall team is plus with him.
    Jones put up good box score stats but team play is lacking.
    Lin put up below average stats and team play below average with him.

    Overall seems like a pretty good description of our team.
     
  6. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,892
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    The usage of "box score" here is kind of misleading. He actually uses a lot of stats that aren't available directly in the boxscore, but rather are from the play-by-play.

    Let's say we define "top-down" stats as those which assess a player's value based on how much better the team performs when he's on the floor versus someone else, and "bottom-up" stats as those which assess a player's value based on the specific things he does on the court. Then what SPM is essentially trying to do is predict a player's "top-down" rating based on his "bottom-up" stats. I think think its an interesting and useful way to analyze a player's contributions.
     

Share This Page