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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. Clarinetmonster

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    Expound on this. How would they give him the proverbial boot? Move to third string PG or somehow getting him off the team? I'm not even sure if that's possible but...
     
  2. flamingdts

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    No one expects him to have 0 turnovers, Harden has a ton of turnovers himself.

    The difference is Lin's current production does not justify some of the turnovers that he makes, especially those full court lobs that often ends up as a turnover. For example, in the game against the Kings, he threw two full court passes that ended up as a turnover (one of them was to Asik, who is not exactly known for his great hands).

    In one sequence, he turned the ball over unnecessarily from a full court pass, leading to a bucket by the Kings. Shortly after, he missed a shot (likely got foul), complained to the ref, didn't get back on D and ended up giving up another bucket to the Kings. That sequence led to a 6-0 run by the Kings.

    Honestly, if Lin would stop throwing dangerous full court passes, that might reduce his turnovers by at least 1 or 2 every game. I understand the whole "high risk-high reward aspect", but as McHale himself said, he doesn't like these types of plays. I'm sure even if Lin was playing for super coach Popovich he would be benched immediately if he continues throwing dangerous full court passes (and he wouldn't be racist if he did so).
     
  3. durvasa

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    Efficient (high FG%, low turnovers), solid defense, shot creation when Harden isn't on the floor, in that order.
     
  4. Doktor Mndbndr

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    If Canaan plays better - and Canaan very well might, because Bev's role is narrow enough to be plausibly filled by a rookie - 3 and D. Hamilton - if he plays solidly, which he seems to be able to deliver, then:

    Zero minutes. Twelve man - please make way to Asik's former spot. Not even in garbage time if a player shows poor body language.
     
  5. el gnomo

    el gnomo Member

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    LOFs may be delusional about Lin's abilities, but this is just......

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  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    He's so strong, fast, and quick that he can't beat defenders off the dribble without a pick.
     
  7. Clarinetmonster

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    Yeah, i'm not sure what's going on with the full court passes right now. If I recall correctly, he was one of the best last season at that. I remember a bunch of full court passes right on the money.
     
  8. pakattak

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    His no look passes work more than they don't.

    The 8 or 6 assists will come when perimeter people starting hitting their ******* shots. So many times Jeremy sets up a good play only for the shot to brick or Omer to fumble the layup.

    Shooting with zero hesitation would be nice, but his jumpshot has been iffy lately, and I get the feeling he's afraid of bricking the possession away too much. He is taking those midrange shots quite often which I think is a step in the right direction.

    The last one is definitely a flaw I hope Lin works out. A lot of it is also predicated on perimeter players hitting his shots to free up the lane as well as the bigs getting better at screening and rolling. Notice Lin almost never has this problem when he's playing with a PnR monster like Dwight.
     
  9. Doktor Mndbndr

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    Well, you are getting your way right now, "el gnomo". Because Lin's minutes played have been dropping drastically, from 30 minutes down to 20-something minutes padded by garbage time, then to barely above 20 the past two games or so.

    Add Hamilton and Canaan in the past week or so to that.
     
  10. el gnomo

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    That's great, I'm not talking about Lin - I'm talking about your self-delusion. Why are you lying to yourself?
     
  11. JeffGreen

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    What does Beverly have to do to make CF'ers happy?
    - Make at least 30% of the shot
    - at least 1 assist
    - 3-5 rebounds
    - Pretend to pester opponent
    - Defer to Harden by stand around for spot-ups
    - Look like he knows what he's doing (which is automatic cause he's black)
     
  12. J Sizzle

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    Trollololololol
     
  13. jordnnnn

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    I love it. But let me point you in the right direction.

    Defense first.
    One of the lowest turnover rates in the entire league.
    Doesn't take away from the stars.
    Huge amount of hustle plays.
    Unlimited amount of self confidence.
     
  14. Dei

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    The guy's just not very good, I'm sorry.
     
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    What will it take to ban this dude?
     
  16. Liberon

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    The fact that some LOFs don't give Bev the credit he deserves in crunch time is amazing. Bev is also hitting his 3 pointers better than Lin of late if you take out his hustle plays.
     
  17. JeffGreen

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    It's sad because this is exactly how LOH operates, subtle racism at its finest
     
  18. goyao11

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    ...really? a guard whose calling card is penetration cannot beat his defender off the dribble?

    Since chris paul prefers to run pick and rolls, does that mean he is bad at beating his guy off the dribble?

    I know that Lin doesn't razzle-dazzle with cross-overs like Francis and then jam it on you like Westbrook, but I don't think anybody can conclude that Lin can't beat his defenders off the dribble...
     
  19. Liberon

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    I know the Jeremy Lin story but did you know Pat Bev had to play in ****in' Russia? Russians treat their former Soviet Nationalities pretty bad even though they are all Slavs. Can you imagine what Pat Bev experienced in such a hostile environment. Lin didn't even bother looking overseas nor had to.
     
  20. goyao11

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    The problem is when we meet the Thunder or Heat in the playoffs, these traits are gonna look like:

    Annoys the opposing guard, but can't do anything because they aren't intimidated by pesky press defense
    Doesn't take any risks on offense, save one or two line-drives to the basket.
    Can't beat opposing pgs off the dribble when the stars are getting shut down by Lebron and team defense.

    Self confidence and hustle goes so far. I am by no means saying that Beverley does not have a place on this team, but the fact that people contrast him to Lin and then say that Beverley is better and more important is simply not correct.
     

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