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Jeremy Lin is a joke!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Nov 12, 2012.

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Is Jeremy Lin a joke?

  1. Yes :)

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  2. No :(

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  1. Dementium

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    Lol. Way to take his comment out of context. He just means to say with more shots Lin would look better on paper. Who wouldn't? Its just that Lin has a really high true shot percentage.
     
  2. rlivz

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    This was from the first month of the 2012-2013 season. Not really applicable right now.
     
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    I don't think LOFs understand how erratic employees like Lin are much less valuable than they imagine themselves. They value themselves at peak performance, and are in denial or blind to their downsides. Meanwhile, the people who have to manage them see them first and foremost as a headache whom they would love to get rid of.

    Lin needs to play championship caliber those 20 to 30 minutes because he is on what has quickly morphed into a championship contender. The Rockets are moving on with or without him. He can pout or be left behind (which is what is happening now), or he can get on the championship train and help it to the destination. He is a spare part, and they don't need him.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    Brooks didn't need to have the green light when he was playing along side Yao and still played really really well.
     
  7. Clarinetmonster

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    Almost none of this is actually true - but thanks for playing!
     
  8. jordnnnn

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    When a player is taking 20 shots a game it means he is the primary focus of the oppositions defense. You can't say that because his TS% is high in his current role that it would remain the same given a bigger role. Look at how much Hardens TS number dropped going from 3rd option feasting off open looks and less defensive attention to what it is now. Still great as a first option, but nowhere near where it was in OKC.
     
  9. fxbillie

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    All the talk about Lin this & Lin that is a waste of time. If he is used to his strength, he will contribute. If not, it is management's decision. Trade him or accept his lesser contribution. Lin can perform when he is used correctly. Any one denying that is delusional. But Houston is a poor fit for him with all star Harden directing the show. It really has nothing to do with Lin's skills. It is all there. We have seen how he played after ASG last year, the beginning of this year, or whenever Harden is out and Lin got the ball in his hand with high usage. There is no need to knock him or trash him when he doesn't play to his potential due to the way he is used in the team. It is beyond his control.
     
  10. goyao11

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    LOFs may not, but what about the rest of us who want both Lin to succeed and the Rockets to succeed as well? There are some who believe that the probability the Rockets beat MIA and OKC hinge on Lin's ability to play well.

    Its unfair to say "Lin NEEDS to play championship caliber" without given him the structural support necessary for him to succeed. Like an analogy I made a while back, we can't say "Kobe NEEDS to play championship level basketball" and then plug him in as our Power Forward and complain when he gets outrebounded by Kris Humphries.

    Your views seem to be in line with Rocket coaching staff, but I feel that they are not necessarily correct in terms of giving Houston the best chance at a 'ship.
     
  11. Liberon

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    Both Harden and sometimes Pat Bev can facilitate. I think both learned from Lin the past 2 seasons, especially with Harden playmaking at an alarming rate with Dwight and I think might be average more assists than Lin this season. With guys like Jordan Hamilton coming in to back up Harden, Lin will get even less playing time. His fans got to know that this might be it for Lin as a Rocket. He will have to do his thing on another squad sooner than later.
     
  12. goyao11

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    Compared to Lin, Brooks played far more minutes and was the primary perimeter ballhandling/playmaking option. Lin is currently behind both Parsons and Harden and plays 30 minutes a game (and in sporadic bursts).

    What I meant by green light was if Lin was given the same opportunity and trust that Brooks had back in the day, he would produce at least on that level.
     
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    When the season started jeremy delivered all the things you guys asked for, better 3 point shooting and better left hand drives. In fact the kid was actually the most effecient scorer when the season started. He was the teams best 3point shooter percentage wise. It went all down after pbev returns from injury. With the kid having incosistent minutes. Despite lesser playing time the kid manage to be productive its really rare in the nba to pull off a triple double with just 29 mins of playing time. But lets be honest here jeremy manage to bring all the goods needed when the season starts and still got remove from the starting unit. That moved from rox org. alone proved my suspicion and it solidified last feb. 20. They never wanted jlin. To the rox org his just a bargaining chip
     
  14. goyao11

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    I agree with this statement, but it is still fun to talk about "hypotheticals" and give our own expert commentary as if us fans control anything at all, haha.

    If not, what else do we have to talk about? The glory of Harden's beard?
     
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    I thought I remember reading it a while ago.

    For this season, here's the breakdown of his turnovers based on the PBPs:

    63.8% ball stolen
    17.3% bad pass
    5.5% lost ball out of bounds
    4.7% charge
    3.1% traveling
    2.4% stepped out of bounds
    1.6% lost ball
    0.8% discontinued dribble
    0.8% 3-second violation
     
  16. Liberon

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    If Jordan Hamilton were here at the beginning of the season, that might not have happened. Rockets championship team dynamics were looking for a 6th man spark off the bench. Pat Bev and company were construed to not be capable of that yet Pat Bev's emergence of the Play Off suggested that he was good enough to start. Lin had to play the Ginobli role and he did. Lin's recent regression doesn't help his case but with a guy like Jordan Hamilton on the bench, Triple Double Lin would be starting.
     
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    I'm wondering what would make CF'ers happy in terms of Lin's production assuming 20-30minPT. Would it be:
    - consistent dbl digit scoring
    - 0 or low turnovers
    - 4-6 assists
    - good defense
    - Just to look more engaged

    Honestly asking, what would be a solid stat line for Lin assuming his average settles down to about 25min (which it's looking like).
     
  18. Doktor Mndbndr

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    Ha! You still imagine him assured of 25 minutes of game! He's assured of nothing! If I'm McHale and see Canaan playing well, see Hamilton playing well, I'd give Lin the boot if I could!
     
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    Jordan hamilton is still untested. Today's game should be better for evaluation.
     
  20. Liberon

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    - No cheesy no look passes (it doesn't fool anyone and it's a waste of energy
    while often being picked off)
    - At least 8 assists or 6 if coming off the bench
    - Confidence in his shot and he makes it with no hesistation
    - Drives into the paint and scores or knows who he'll pass it out to prior (No
    more spending more than 2 long seconds surveying the pass out while in the
    paint.)
     

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