ClutchFans Game Thread: Wizards @ Rockets 2/12/2014

You're way too sensitive. Any player that played in last night's game is relevant to talk about in this thread.

Like another poster said, you really derailed this discussion from something else.

Originally, I was replying to a poster who thought Lin played superior to Wall last night. I posted stats because wanted him to look at the overall picture rather than just F/Gs alone. At no point did I focus on his turnovers. You made it an obsession into talking about his turnovers and accused others of analyzing him just based on turnovers alone. Which is false and untrue. This overzealous need to defend Lin and play him up as the victim is getting old.

 

This has really upset them.... Its just one regular season game... I almost wish the Rockets could give them the W if that would make them stop crying... I don't want to be rude or anything but that W wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome of that team's season. And just like that a loss wouldn't have made a difference in how much The Rockets are progressing and getting better to the point its scary.... Oh well

 

I don't get how anyone can wish another person injury... and then talk about honor and integrity. Only Wizard fans :grin:.

 

They wanna complain about the FT differential?

How about not hacking Howard in the 2nd?

How about not shooting 3s all day ?

How about playing in the paint like the rox?

How about playing d on that last possession ?

 

This is kind of hard to fathom. Unless you are not a fan of the Rockets?

 

Face it, if any of those fans had Howard or Harden on their team, they'd be the last person talking about it.

 

Man we did miss Bev big time. He takes care off the ball so much better than Lin who is back to his usual unnecessary boneheaded turnovers.

Lin is best as a bench player where he can play with confidence. He just doesn't have the same confidence starting.

 

good game last night a win is a win, it shouldn’t have been that close but those late game situations where we we still win, come in handy for team geling and figuring out how to win in a close game before playoffs start. The guys were really happy after the game last night, a 7 game winning streak can build confidence and have guys improve as a unit.

lets blowout Lakers in LA next make this 8

 

Everybody will have a bad game from time to time. Just give it a rest already.

 

Harden actually has been playing very good defense for the last couple of months. Not Paul George defense by any means, but solid top 25% of the NBA. Just look at Beal's stat line from last night: 8-24 for 20 points in 36 minutes. Actually quite good. In fact the Rockets played solid defense the entire game. There is nothing you can do when a small forward hits 7 straight three pointers in five minutes. But that is something that doesn't even happen once a year.

 

It's ironic Parsons as a SF went off against the Grizzlies on 3s (10/14) and we ended up with a loss. I think that's karma!

 

Can't disregard that Ariza was still Harden's man during that 3pt shoot out..he gave him waay too much space..he should've been right on him after he nailed the first two. and then fell of his pump fakes which allowed Ariza wide open. And then in transition where Asik was forced on him and wasn't fast enough to get out...

 

I'm not sure he's top 25%. But I'm quite happy with average, considering we want him to save a bit for the offense. And yeah, while he messed up a few of the 7, he guarded a couple of them quite well, so it's not really accurate to say he gave up all 7.

 

I was going to stay out of this, but can't help myself. Gotta play devil's advocate.

1) Option doesn't matter, it's style of play that leads to turnovers. More you have the ball in your hand, more likely you turn it over. Lin, by consensus, is not a spot up shooter, but a play maker whether for himself or others.

2) John Wall also shot 6-19 and Beal shot 8-24. Great, had low TOs, but sucked at everything else.

3) Our style of play leads to more TOs. If we took long jumpers like Wall and Beal, we would have really low TOs. That's why Harden/Howard/Lin/Parsons all have high TO games, but often with high offensive output.

In summary, I'm not excusing Lin's poor decision making sometimes, but he did a good job defensively and offensively. You are literally picking on the one thing he did incorrectly, and saying that makes his game terrible.

Solid does not mean perfect. Few players play perfect games.

 

Any of you guys notice some of these not so scrub prospects on opposing teams that are overlooked? I noticed Jan Vesley. Lot's of length but plays the 3/4.

 

It's easy to take care of the ball when you don't actually run plays or doing anything risky.

 

Wall??? As far as I'm concerned he had 13 turnovers on all those shots he missed, Lin missed 3 and scored 3 less points on 11 less shots.
I don't care if a player is the 1st or tenth option, there is no excuse for bad basketball. Harden and Howard balled but they gave up a lot also.

 

Exactly!

 

What's your point? I AM a Lin fan, but NOT a LOF and think I bring up legitimate points when LOH's like the poster I responded to talks unnecessary smack when the kid played a good game.

 

Die hard Rockets fan.... It was just one game and The Rockets are getting very good. They need the experience more than the W..... The Rockets have a bright future.... They don't at the time. If they would have won the game would it had changed anything? I don't think so. If it would have been a playoff game then maybe. Truth is, they shouldn't have even been in that situation. And if the Rockets would have lost by 1 I would say the same thing... Shouldn't have even been in that situation.