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The case of the missing corner 3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by quatin, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. francis 4 prez

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    what is the impact of having howard on corner 3's? i have to think running a possession through the post results in fewer corner 3's. you certainly can't have a shooter in the corner on the side of the court where the big man is posting up, and it's not easy to get the ball to the other corner without multiple passes.

    last year, we could run a PnR with asik and have shooters in both corners with the ball handler easily able to make a direct pass to either shooter depending on how the defense reacted.

    throw in more power forward time for jones instead of someone like delfino and the defense has fewer shooters to respect and will presumably pay more attention to the ones in the corners.

    that would be my big picture thought on what could be limiting corner 3 attempts.
     
  2. Easy

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    We got quite a bit corner 3s with Hakeem posting. When the big man is doubled, he kicks it out they swing the ball around the perimeter with the defense scrambling to rotate. Eventually you swing to the corner with a wide open guy.
     
  3. quatin

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    Good catch. I placed the 2012 numbers for Parsons. His 2013 shots are 391 3 pt shots and 31% from the corner. The trend still holds true though.
     
  4. Aleron

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    The illegal defense rules changes that a lot though, being able to hedge between the post and corner takes away any potential space.
     
  5. HardenWay

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    Myabe, just maybe opposing teams are defending the corner.
     
  6. heypartner

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    OK, for some reason I thought we were talking about the top of the arc. I never heard someone use the phrase "arc 3" before.

    my mistake. I agree.

    I still think you should only include 70 3FA last year from Garcia, vs 391. Since he only shot 70 for us.
     
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    It's terrifying that the coaching staff appears to have been trying to incorporate more "Garcia drive" into the offense. I mean, "Parsons drive" was good, but "Garcia drive" terrified me. I think the de-emphasis of the dedicated corner 3 shooter has indeed hurt us.
     
  8. AvgJoe

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    Dwight takes those corner 3s...
     
  9. Mirri3000

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    That's call 'the key'.....
     
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    I think a reason for this not happening is that in many of Dwight's post possessions, his moves end up taking him across to the other side of the basket from where he started. The second defender on this side doesn't have to travel far between his man and Dwight, so I think that is one contributor to fewer corner 3s.
     
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    There's one issue with the corner 3s, which is that it's quite bad for transition defense. The corner 3 is furthest location on the court. If you have your guards shooting corner 3s, then misses can easily be 2 points the other way.

    Miami has Lebron and (when healthy) Wade which are superb athletes in transition D. Houston though has Harden, Lin, and Parsons, all of whom hardly look great in transition d.
     
  12. jocar

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    The answer:

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    the Years Seattle screwed up and Jordan retired
     
  14. StandontheLake

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    Guess you hated the finals then? Those two three point shooting teams duking it out?
     
  15. heypartner

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    yeah, i know. But you really meant to say the Top of the Key? Been following this game for decades. Just never heard of a "arc 3" before. As in when the corner turns into the arc. Never heard that before. Probably because no one shoot from there.

    You have? And when?
     
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    Watch we will start hitting our 3's after the all star break I really really really believe the Rockets will turn it on like another level type sh** ....
     
  17. imaginedragons

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    yup, it's Dwight Howard as the major answer.

    the team had a vastly different identity last year. they played at a frenetic pace and were not averse to shooting 3s even on fastbreaks, where instead of filling the lanes, the forwards usually faded to the corners while the guards hung around the arc/quartercourt area, leaving the ball handler on the break a host of options.

    this year, they've been trying to figure out spacing through most of the first half of the season. there was a stretch of games when Asik and Howard were on the floor together and anything from the foul line to the goal was simply clogged and putting a shooter in the corner whether weak or strong side would just make it easier on the opposing D. Garcia has the highest corner 3 taken % partly because he has played less with Howard and more with the 2nd team where spacing isn't that much of an issue with no real post threat.

    it does seem though that in the last few games their spacing has been getting better and better and Howard has been doing a better job kicking out out of double teams even to the weak side of the floor.
     
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    Harden regressed as a 3pt shooter by a margin
     
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    SA and Miami say bye LOF
     

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