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[Grantland] Clutchfans Mention!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Garner, Jan 31, 2014.

  1. Garner

    Garner Member

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    That's cool, but why didn't Grantland link directly to Clutchfans instead of the secondary source, ESPN?

    Also, I don't know what Morey thinks of the way the media is taking his comments. He probably regrets making them. I think it was intended to be an off-the-cuff dig at himself, though clearly indicative of an underlying resentment.
     
  3. BonziWellsGOAT

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    Bill Simmons lurks the hangout.
     
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    Page not found!
     
  5. Nice Rollin

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    this was on espn.com too
     
  6. Voice of Aus

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    Does this mean now grantland will release an article saying they got mentioned by clutchfans?
     
  7. tallanvor

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    aren't they wrong? It is not from an interview with Morey and Clutcfans. I thought it was from the season ticket holder Q&A.
     
  8. roflmcwaffles

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    Because ESPN pays Bill Simmons a big salary and displays his website driving 1000s of hits/day on their website.
     
  9. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Grantland is basically an article directory designed to send link juice to ESPN's site to boost its rankings online. Google could probably label some of the practices unethical and penalize both sites but they know what's good for them. A link to this site from Grantland would be worth a couple of grand, God forbid Disney gives anyone a break.
     
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    speaking of grantland & white, Bill Simmons was very high on Royce and wanted the celtics to draft him badly

    from his 2012 draft diary

    http://grantland.com/features/welcome-draft-diary-xvi/
     
  11. HI Mana

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    ESPN has, up until Robert Lipsyte recently took over as Ombudsman in 2013 or so, had a longstanding policy to not credit any other reporters for their coverage, even when gathering identical quotes or reusing copy. While ESPN employs many excellent journalists who do their own extensive reporting, when a local reporter beats them to a scoop, they will dispatch their own reporter to "verify the story" by interviewing all of the publicly acknowledged sources again, and asking their own sources about the new story. They can then file their report using anonymous "sources", and identical quotes, while giving zero credit to the originator.

    Here are two articles detailing such theft, once concerning Texas A&M, as well as Dwight Howard (in order to keep this on topic).

    http://espn.go.com/blog/ombudsman/post/_/id/209/untying-the-knots-of-ethics-and-attribution

    http://espn.go.com/blog/poynterreview/post/_/id/420/wording-attribution-should-be-sacrosanct

    It's not a huge surprise to anyone who keeps up with sports news; most people know Chris Broussard and his "multiple sources"; literally the only reason the man had a job for a few years was to allow for ESPN to avoid calling out Adrian Wojnarowski's name before every single draft pick, and replace their coverage of the trade deadline with a scrolling feed of his twitter account.

    To ESPN's minor credit, their actual article does source the clutchfans.net blog, and the Grantland link has been edited to directly lead to CF (well after it has fallen off the first page and is no longer generating revenue) however, see if you can tell the discrepancy as to how major news organizations cover a minor story that they did not first report:

    The timeline is as follows:

    January 25th: Ben Dubose publishes his account of the Daryl Morey Q&A.

    January 26th: CBS Sports' Eye on Basketball writes a blog entry and sources Clutchfans.

    January 27th: NBC Sports' ProBasketball Talk picks up the story, gives a link to clutchfans.net and a hat tip to CBS.

    January 28th: Yahoo Sports' and Clutchfans member Kelly Dwyer writes about it for Ball Don't Lie, hyperlinks Clutchfans as well as NBC Sports.

    January 30th: ESPN.com picks up the story 5 days after it was first published on a slow news day, credits and hyperlinks clutchfans.net alone.

    January 30th: Grantland's Triangle blog picks up the quote out of context, credits clutchfans, hyperlinks to ESPN, corrected a day later after complaints made by original source.

    I'm willing to give ESPN the benefit of the doubt here, and just chalk it up to the same shoddy editing and journalistic ethics at Grantland that allowed that snuff piece about the transgender putter inventor to run in the state it was in.
     
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