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How long will the Lin/Bev rollercoaster rage on

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BonziWellsGOAT, Jan 30, 2014.

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Will the Lin/Bev game to game kneejerks end?

Poll closed Mar 1, 2014.
  1. Yes, as long as we win

    37 vote(s)
    20.0%
  2. No, not until one is off the team

    86 vote(s)
    46.5%
  3. Not until the Sun burns out and life on Earth dies.

    62 vote(s)
    33.5%
  1. apollo33

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    Parsons is not the same as Birdman and red Mamba

    people like Parsons because he's good looking and seems to be friends with everyone.

    Scalabrine is more like a joke because he's a joke at basketball but he's so awkward and bad on the court people found him lovable.

    Birdman is just a random drugged up looking thing that actually resembles a parrot, nobody actually likes him the way they like Parsons.

    But traditionally white guys in the NBA are stereotyped to be non athletic "blue collared" guys because they can't jump and have no athleticism and only contributes by having work ethic and good hustle.
     
  2. JustAGuy

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    Lin/Bev is so 2013. Have you been watching the chest bumps and head smacks? Those two like each other. And they play well together.

    But I like this whole Lin/Harden idea! Harden is jealous because of all the allstar votes Lin gets, and so freezes him out of the offense...the story writes itself!
     
  3. jocar

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    Oh well, atleast it's not as ridiculous as the "Lin or Harden" arguments of last year.
    "Lin/AB" and "Lin/Canaan" coming soon... stay tuned!
     
  4. A_3PO

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    Just like Yao's story did... oh wait! Yao's upbringing was nothing like Lin's. Wonder what they had in common?

    Lin's story resonates with Asians because...wait for it...he is Asian. There is nothing wrong with that. Admit it. The extreme fanatics are the problem and too many of them litter up the GARM with nonsense.
     
  5. durvasa

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    I think what you mean is race isn't the only thing.
     
  6. Crunchyball

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    Trade lin out please
     
  7. hlmbasketball

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    Until we get Lowry :grin:
     
  8. Crunchyball

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    Yes lets get Lowry and put him in the same situation as Lin. But who cares, it fixes Lin's situation and he gets to be reunited with his Linsainty buddies. Novak + Fields .
    I bet Lin is praying for it.
     
  9. wompwomp

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    Its a little more nuanced than that. You equate the fanatical asian fans with liking lin and yao because they are both asian. I won't pretend to know the pulse of a 1 billion people like you seem to. But asian and asian american are not the same thing. Just like italian and italian american are not the same thing. To boil it down to just ethnicity as their motivation is a bit simpleminded. And noone ever questions when someone white has a huge following. Did eminem, while a good mc, sells almost double of the next black rapper all time, because he is just that good or because he is white? Or how macklemore won a grammy that he himself thinks is unwarranted? Or how elvis is the most iconic rockstar while essentially playing a derivative of what his black counterparts are doing? How about nash winning three mvps? Guys like jason sehorn, shawn bradley, christian laetner, peyton hillis, andrew golotta were hyped beyond belief. The phrase great white hope didn't come from nowhere. That elephant in the room is rarely mentioned, if at all.

    With that said, i dont think there is anything wrong with someone relating to lin cause he is asian or any other ethnicities doing that, but usually it is said like a slight when it comes to asian, like the said asian fan cant possibly know squat about bball.
     
  10. Stats

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    Seems like you are proving those defensive Asians right with your resorting to general stereotypes. The only proof for your statements seem to be biases in your mind.
     
  11. Easy

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    Lin's story resonates with Asians IN AMERICA (not in Asia) because Asians regularly get snubbed in basketball. Any Asian kid who loves basketball can tell you stories how his high school coach picked less skilled black kids over him simply because black kids look more athletic, or similar things playing in the park.

    It's the same as white players being perceived as "can't jump." But white players have two things going for them that Asians don't have. They are perceived to be either (1) hustling/smart/strong or (2) good shooter. And there have been plenty of great white basketball players in the past.

    This is unique in basketball where black people dominate the sport in America. But this is also unique with Asian Americans because they suffer similar seemingly harmless stereotypes in other areas of life where nobody cares to correct.
     
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    Not sure what the point of this whole post, but it definitely irked me. If you wanted to stir the race pot to get responses, that's a Jorb well done Homestar.
     
  13. wompwomp

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    i have no desire to stir anything, its the internet. feel free to ignore but my point is pretty clear.
     
  14. bilaal14

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    Lin is good, and sometimes very good on particular things on the court.

    No where near justifies his balloon payment next year, and that is one of the main reasons he will be out of here, and Bev and Brooks will be 2 PGs on the roster, given that we do not get a PG in return.
     
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    Do you honestly think when they designed those contracts for Asik and Lin they were thinking, 'these 2 guys better be 15mil players by their 3rd year or else' - I don't either. I don't disagree that he'll probably be out of here, but I really don't think they were expecting either of these guys to be near-max level players, just very good which both of them have been (when they actually play). The poison pills were just to ensure no other team would match. Do I think either or both are worth 8mil when used correctly, for sure.
     
  16. ctry2582

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    Exactly. I remember the board complaining about signing Asik. He averaged like 4 points off the bench. 8M a year??

    The balloon payment is irrelevant. 15M is a lot, but 8.3 over 3 on the cap for a starting C and at the time, starting PG is reasonable. Nobody knew we were gonna get Harden and in turn, Dwight. Worst case scenario was the Rockets were competitive with Lin and Asik, then have the 2015 FA class to look forward too/dangle their expiring contracts as trade pieces.
     
  17. New

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    by your criterion, more than half of the PGs in this league are poor. You meant average starting PG?
     
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    Interesting, people are saying he got paid 8m a year so his performace in the first year is not up to par and now they are saying he got paid 15 the last year and thus he won't be worth the money. I guess somehow Lin magically earns 6 million more somewhere.
     
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    There are more than 3 billion Asian people.. The US way of treating them as the same ethnicity is just ridiculous and ignorant. They do not even come from the ancestor. It's just amazing.
     
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    Yes, your point about Steve Nash winning 3 mvp's when he actually won 2 - are you saying neither was deserved because he is white? or that he only got them because he is white? Your point about musicians really hits close to home - as a white jazz musician, I come across this sentiment from time to time. (eg, pretty much everything Wynton Marsalis has ever said about it) - the idea that white people shouldn't even be playing jazz or can't play 'real jazz' because it's a black art form - got news for ya buddy, it's an American artform- and as most things uniquely American, was born out of the meshing of cultures/musical styles. Basketball is similar in that it is uniquely American, and not defined by race. So let's just tell the Beatles to give back some of their awards because they were influenced by black musicians because no black musician was ever influenced by them or by any other white group:rolleyes:

    Or maybe we should have Larry Bird, Bob Cousy, Dave Cowens, Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki give back their mvp's because there was obviously a conspiracy with white dudes winning 5 or 6 out of almost 60 mvp's and there MUST have been more valuable players than them those years, just look at their skin!

    And finally in the jazz world, Bix Beiderbecke, Glenn Miller, Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey,Benny Goodman, Gil Evans, Bill Evans, Lee Konitz Art Pepper, Stan Getz and many others should not even get space in the jazz history books, because we know that they were only as popular as they were because, well you know.... there had to be better players out there at the time - so it had nothing to do with their hard work and incredible abilities that they got recognition.If you're gonna cherry pick examples, don't make it sound like you're making blanket statements.
     

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