This sounds crazy but James Harden should be the 6th man...

Normally it's the other way around, that asians are smarter than everyone

 

Harden has his faults and has room to grow and improve. Hakeem took a good long time to trust his teammates. However, Harden is just too good to come off the bench. I don't think a coach in the league would make him a sixth man now.

 

lmfao were u drunk when you posted this?

 

Because OKC already had Durant and Westbrook.

 

It's really pretty simple: Lin possesses the ball slightly longer than Harden per each minute played but Harden still produces more assists each minute.

As far as where the assists go. Most of our assists, including Lin's come on the perimeter. 5 of Lin's 8 assists in the Spurs game last night were on the perimeter.

If the one player had more assists and they were all 3 pointers, wouldn't that be better than having a fewer number of assists and them all being two pointers?

Of course that's not really the case as Harden gets plenty of assists by driving to the basket and dishing for layups and dunks.

Neither Harden or Lin is great on the defensive end. Harden is far superior on the offensive end therefore he is the better overall player.

Kind of funny that you bring this up when in another current thread a Lin fan just stated:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=8650991&postcount=168

Thank you for proving my point. Great timing.

 

You're looking at one aspect - touches. You need to look at usage also. Harden has a 27% USG to Lin's 20%.

 

I think Harden, Lin, and Bev are replaceable. That's my opinion. I admit, that's not my "fact." But it's also an opinion that is not unreasonable at all. And one that is shared by many unbiased people.

 

I think Harden should be the 7th man.

 

What exactly are you trying to say by this?

FGA and FTA are a major factor in usage percentage. Harden gets a good deal more of both of these than Lin, leading to a higher usage percentage.

 

Who are these people?

 

Interesting that 99% of your posts are about Jeremy Lin and you think my argument is lopsided. Ok.

In truth it wasn't really and argument, I was just posting facts. I tend to like to have some facts to back up my points as opposed to making wild claims.

Sticky means holding the ball and killing ball movement. It doesn't matter when it occurs. Steve Francis pounded the ball for the first 16 to 18 seconds of the shot clock...that was sticky. Secondly, Lin doesn't bring the ball up most of the time so attributing his possession time to that is ridiculous.

 

No, that's what sticky means to you. IMO "sticky" refers to lack of fluid ball movement on offense. My opinion of what sticky is doesn't have to be correct but you don't see me using it as a fact either. And you do realize that if a player tries to beat his man off the dribble it's not always an ISO, right? And it doesn't always relate to the shot clock.

As for your blatant attacks on Harden for being lazy and playing no defense. Well, clearly you're not watching the games. At least objectively.

 

Are you and balldontlie the same person? Yeah lets bench the best sg in the league for a combo guard (who im a biiig fan of btw) plagued by inconsistency and confidence issues.

 

No actually I was looking at time of possession rather than strictly touches. Time of possession is how long the ball is in the players hand.

Usage is just a calculation using Field Goal attempts, FT attempts, turnovers and assists.

If a player dribbles the ball for 20 seconds and passes the ball successfully it doesn't have any effect on their usage rate. Even though that player had 20 seconds to make a play and did nothing it still doesn't count toward usage.

Time of possession was the most applicable stat due to the claims that Harden dominated the ball wasn't in Lin's hands much.

 

But the Rockets have Jeremy Lin. Are you saying Lin isn't just as good as Durant and Westbrook? In that case you might just be a racist. How dare you insinuate such a thing.

 

I know this will never happen because it would piss off Jeremy, but in terms of theory, James Harden and Patrick Beverly actually makes a good backcourt and Lin in the starting lineup drains both of their abilities.

If Lin came off the bench like he did in OKC, we'd actually be deadly for 48 minutes of the game. He's proven he can be an awesome 6th man.

I know this will never happen though, but do you think it's a good idea in theory?


...oh wait we tried this already and it's been a failure.

 

"Laziest player of all time"

and you wonder why nobody takes your posts seriously

 

Well, I think the eye test tells us that Lin and AB do a lot more probing of the D which in effect turns into dribbling in a big circle - Harden doesn't do that. That could account for some of the differences in time of possession. But yes, Harden is obviously more productive than any other guard or otherwise on our team. Hence the max contract.

 

Lin win a championship how and when and who and where and why and in what universe

you mean Lin tards would rather we lose and have Lin start every game til eternity

 

Ok, I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but this statement is even more comical than it is sad. It takes major cojones to tell Rockets fans that their first all star since Yao and Tracy is "the laziest player of all time." You have no idea what kinds of players the team has trotted out over the years. In fact, Mo Taylor and Kelvin Cato are insulted that you are trying to take away their well deserved place in the annals of Rockets history.