Console Wars Thread! PS4 vs. Xbox One vs. Wii U Fight!

Take it up with CNN's writer. That debt rating language is the first sentence of the article.

Sony is broke. Sega Genesis wins. Woooooo! Console wars!

 

Why would you even want to play a console that doesn't know what you look like? ANYONE could play your games. Sounds like a security threat to me.

 

Looooooool.

 

Industry insider "Insider: Xbox One has no hope, will lose this generation of console war to PS4"
On BGR and the front page of yahoo now
http://games.yahoo.com/news/insider-xbox-one-no-hope-lose-generation-console-155124991.html

Most would agree that the console war for this generation of video game systems is far from over… but it may have been over before it even really started. According to comments made by well-known industry insider Ashan Rasheed, who goes by the name “Thuway” on Twitter and video game forum NeoGAF, Sony’s PlayStation 4 is the clear winner in this generation of video game consoles. He also says that will continue to be the case for this entire console generation according to his sources, suggesting that Microsoft did not build its Xbox One with the future in mind.

“Xbox One will be behind all generation, and not buy [sic] some small trivial margin. It will be enough to show up distinctly in exclusives,” Rasheed wrote on Twitter, quoting one of his unnamed industry sources. He continued in a separate tweet, “The PS4 has more left in the tank that will start showing up going forward. It was designed with more forward thinking hardware choices.”

The tweets were picked up on Monday by DualShockers.

Rasheed also noted an instance where Call of Duty developer Infinity Ward asked Microsoft to allow the company’s title Call of Duty: Ghosts access an off-limits portion of the Xbox One’s graphics processor that would have increased performance by 8%. Microsoft reportedly refused. The anecdote is seemingly intended as an example to illustrate Microsoft’s unwillingness to help developers address some of the hardware limitations of the Xbox One console.

Early numbers show that the PlayStation 4 was indeed the clear winner in the early days of the current console war. Microsoft managed to ship 3 million Xbox One units in 2013 while Sony’s PlayStation 4 shipments totaled 4.2 million consoles last year. If Rasheed’s sources are accurate and gamers start to see huge gaps in the quality of exclusive games available for each console, the sales gap we saw in 2013 may indeed grow even wider moving forward.

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So what has the PS4 got that will help it looking towards the future that the XBone doesn't have?

 

I have to say this article seem to be biased to me. Looking at last gen and the start of this gen, we can clearly see that PS4 will only dominate in regions outside of US. In US it will still be quite an even match. Further more xboners have their own taste of games and as long as ms sticks to it, other stuff becomes less irrelevant. From this perspective they are on the same path as the Wii U.

 

Reading is fundamental.

 

I ask a valid question and this kid has another mental fart on the forum.

 

a) "kid", yeah...okay. b) if you can't figure out what the advantages of one console or the other are after 29 pages of this and 2 other threads...you have an issue with your ability to read.

It's not like you're new to any of these threads, hell you're one of the top 5 posters in this one.

So you're trolling or illiterate, you tell me which one.

 

Listen little buddy, I'm asking the adults here a question. Those that have knowledge about the hardware of both systems. I'd like them to explain what it is about the PS4 that sets it up so much better for the long term future compared to the XBone when both systems seem fairly similar in so many ways.

I'm not here for your style of fan-girling bull*****, so if you could just shut and leave us to talk about the direction Sony took as opposed to Microsoft, that would be great.

 

Learn to use the internet or the search function. You're not a precious flower, you don't need people to hold your hand since you're such an "adult". This thread is 30 pages long and there's a billion places on the internet that have discussed this ad nauseum, not to mention the thread you're in. Obviously you're a rocket scientist, and should have been able to figure this out on your own. Since you seemed to be a little bit out of your element (there's words here!), I figured I'd try to assist. My bad!

Guess the hole in the ozone is worse than we thought.

 

It took you three tries but you finally got there.

This is a thread discussing different aspects of video game systems. No ones saving the planet here little buddy. I check in from time to time to read what the knowledgable posters have to say about the pros and cons of both systems. I try to skip the mind numbing crap from idiots like yourself that have attached their self esteem to a piece of plastic and who spend their time being a cheerleader for giant companies.

Some of the posters in this thread have put up some really interesting stuff. I think we have a couple of people in here that have great knowledge of the gaming industry and I like reading what they have to say as opposed to sites that run off of the advertising money that both Sony and MS are pumping into the marketing for both consoles.

Either way, I'm just killing a little time here. This is a tiny part of my day. Too much of it has already been spent reading your dribble.

Now do me a favour and shut **** up...

 

Haha struck some nerves. I bet your face is red as hell right now.

 

Yeah, I'm investing a lot into this special moment....

 

You keep spitting these essay like replies, yeah...panties are bunched.

 

Yeah. Totally.

 

Eh...it depends.

The Xbox One has a few bottlenecks that can make 1080p difficult when using certain rendering techniques (unfortunately, these rendering techniques seem quite popular for next-gen games). It isn't impossible of course, but just requires more work (and possibly some trade-offs). The PS4 doesn't have these bottlenecks (it has a lot of memory bandwidth, a high number of ROPs, etc.). I don't know if I'd go as far as saying 1080p should be minimum spec (I guess BF already disproved that), but it was definitely designed to make it relatively easy to push 1080p resolutions without much difficulty (and/or trade-offs).

It really depends on the engine and games developers want to make, but those are some basic points about the consoles' hardware.

It kind of is already.

With the TR situation, I can only think of one game (I'm probably forgetting others, but whatever) that was like that on 360/PS3. And that developer deeply apologized for the PS3 version, promising never to put out such a pathetic port again (paraphrasing somewhat).

Perhaps TR is an extreme example (though funnily enough, it should have been easier to get good results on XBO apparently), but it seems more and more multiplatform games are showing decent gaps.

"BUT FORZA 5 HAZ TEH 1080P 60FPS!"
or
"RYSE'S GRAFIX ROXORZ MY BOXERZ!"
(RC Cola, this is what happens when you eat too much cornbread)

OK, sure. That doesn't really mean much other than these studios are pretty talented. We can "wait and see" in that case I guess (though I'd say the Sorcerer tech demo puts both to shame, but "tech demo" and all).

Hey, um no offense, but could you post something other than this every 5 pages or so? I'm sure you can find a post every so often where you can use this response. You can continue to point out these posts, but trust me, we all see them (and ignoring them is usually the best thing). Feel free to post all you want of course, but this just doesn't seem to contribute much to the thread (not that many are adding very good contributions to the thread).

This thread is pretty horrible (due to a lot of reasons), but these "dudez, you're just stuped fanbozzz!" posts don't really add much either (not directing at you). Guys...you don't have to point these out. The fanboys are pointing out that they are fanboys. Either make them look stupid by pointing out facts, or just ignore them. Or, if you're skilled at sarcasm, throw in some over and over. That won't help, but without Swoly posting in here, there aren't too many smilies in the thread.

Otherwise, we just get "Nuh-uh, I used Skype once, I bought some Blu-rays, and I bought some Pokemon cards for my nephew, so NO WAY am I a fanboy!" Rinsed and repeated over and over.

I'm trying to get this thread back to Lara Croft's Boob Physics (specifically, does one console render better boobs, and will most people notice the superior boobs?). Anyone else with me?

Thuway is OK as an insider (somewhat hit and miss), but not sure what he says is really worth an article like this. Don't really disagree with it, but he doesn't really have that much "authority" to his voice or anything.

You'll probably have to further clarify what you mean. Hardware-wise (tech specs), the PS4 is quite a bit better at certain tasks (compute tasks in particular). Plus the resolution advantages as I pointed out earlier.

If you mean functionality or something, then I'm not sure there's much. But then again, I don't think these consoles are much better than the PS3/360 in that area too. You can add a LOT to these systems, thanks to their always-improving operating systems.

A lot of what differentiates the two will just be the software and services provided by Sony and MS. It isn't really the hardware per se in that case. Sony is pushing things like Gakai and Remote Play (which I REALLY like). Talk about IPTV and VR headsets, but that should probably just stay as rumors (and MS can do the same). MS is doing the Kinect, cable integration thing (some of which can be done on PS4, and more could be added if Sony wished to do so I'm sure). Skype, the NFL deal, etc.

Just depends on how you look at it. If you want specifics on one thing (e.g., tech specs), I can provide more details.

 

Jesus, I thought this thread would be fun as a ****s and giggles kind of thing and now Im embarrassed that these systems are so important.

I have a PS4, so all these things are very nice and handy...I have rechargeable batteries for my xbox and it goes like 30+ hours before needing a recharge. Incredible technology, really.

Ultimately, the software will be what determines the "console" winner...and as of right now, the PS4 has no edge. I have both systems and my PS4 hasnt been turned on since Christmas because there is nothing to play (Im not into these games like Flower or Resogun, I like AAA titles).

As much as people hate talking about Titanfall, that will be the first title on either system that will give the system an edge....Infamous will be out for the PS4, which will be an awesome game, but I think when you put those two games up head to head, Titanfall will be the much more popular game.

And unless there is a big difference in multi-plat games, then the PS4 has no edge because then the hardware talk becomes completely pointless.

The jury is still out, just dont strain your brain too hard over the coming months to prove to yourself and everyone around that the PS4 is the clear winner.

 

That's great. Thanks for the reply.

Just reading that article from Yahoo had me wondering what this great edge the PS4 had over the XBone. As you say, they are so similar and for the most part it will come down to software....I wondered if I had missed something in reading up on both consoles.

Do you think the PS4 and XBone have the power to run VR headsets like the Oculus Rift (or something similar)? I have a feeling a VR headset like the OR will be the next big gadget that will get gamers excited, especially once they have ironed out the bugs and get it working smoothly.

If these consoles can't run the OR or something similar then I think "next gen" will have a real question mark over it. They really have to deliver in that area in my opinion.

 

That would be really sad if the PS4 has hit 200 mph...in other words, may as well start looking forward to the next gen.

If studios that made Forza and Ryse are talented enough to push the system to the same standards of PS4 (going at 200 mph), then why is there any debate that the xbox is significantly weaker? This is what Im failing to understand...everyone has an excuse for when the Xbox has a game that can perform to the level of any PS4 game (like, oh but that's just a talented studio). I mean, the point is that the xbox is every bit as capable of making games at 1080p and 60 fps...so what exactly is the PS4 so incredibly more powerful at? Microsoft is a software company and they will ultimately have many developers that are able to push the XBox to those standards, if they want. Unless the PS4 is able to push games at a higher resolution than 1080 or a higher frame rate than 60, then Im really curious to know why it matters that the PS4 has inherently better hardware. Im asking this genuinely as Im curious. I always see the efforts of Forza and Ryse being downplayed and it really makes no sense from an unbiased point of view (Ive had the PS2, PS3, and PS4 along with XBox 360 and XBox One).