Oh man, the dude you're replying to attacked me for saying what you're saying in a half joking way! Good Luck!
No GM will fire a coach if their team is at No.5 in the West. Possible ways for mcfail to go: We drop to 8th seed or worse, we lost in 1st round.
Oh it's "BS" when other teams have consistency issues like we do like GS? How convenient...... We don't consistently struggle with bad teams. Sacramento is probably the one bad team that truly doesn't match up well with us for whatever reason. Also, a lot of our loses came on back to back games. All in the schedule if you take a look..... We aren't as talented as Spurs, OKC, and Portland. Portland is coming down to Earth but they are legitimately good. And you are twisting my words. We aren't an upper tier playoff team in the west currently and weren't predicted to be this year. Do you disagree with that last sentence? Having two superstars playing together for the first season doesn't equate to a top playoff team in the west. It's pretty obvious we are still missing a piece or two. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? We've had extreme roster turnover.... a lot has changed except for being a great offensive team with defensive deficiencies. Difference this year being 14 minutes of our elite rim protection has been sidelined this year with an injury. We don't run a lot of SET PLAYS but we run a lot of SETS. How is watching basketball going to help me read alternatives CF members have proposed? Instead of speaking for folks.... give me an alternative to McHale and his system. We do.... we just run sets more since running lots of plays allows defenses to get set.
Lol. I dont even see his point. People are calling out mchale since clearly they saw that we could have done better. Nobody is expecting us to be 82-0. Hell nobody is expecting us to be number 1 in the west, but just watching the games, many of us could see that we are playing below average. Our players are just playing uninspired at times. Isn't that a coaching problem?
I think he is an average head coach overall. I think our coaching staff is overall pretty good. I would love to have a top coach.... but they don't grow on trees like superstars. ....Define regularly. We are over .500 against the west, better than GS, Phoenix, Dallas but not better than Portland, OKC, and Spurs. Hardly only living by defeating the east.... Pretty sure they are bigger laughing stock. Like Knicks or Nets come to mind.... Yet we are past our toughest schedule and have our top perimeter defender back.... but still 6 1/2 games back from 1st with over 30 games left. May even get the elite 48 minutes of rim protection back.
We win at a 63% clip as of 1/25/14. McHale is to blame when we lose but gets no credit when we win. I guess that last sentence is my point, coaching is the problem when we lose but of no consequence when we lose. This thread only becomes truly active after loses..... Lastly, who could we have done better with?
i've been racking my brain tryng to come up with scenarios that would lead to Morey making a change. What do you guys think about Clips/Lakers play in 4/5 matchup, and Clippers win in 5. think he would fire him then?
No, we consistently struggle against bad teams. If we do beat them it is usually by the skin of our teeth. We've beaten Portland twice now. How are we not as talented as them? We have the best Center AND SG in the NBA. A rising PF and SF...our 3rd string PG can drop 20 on any given night and our 2nd string PG can drop 15-6 on any given night. The Spurs have no all-stars on their team this year. How are they more talented than us? They are better coached, that's all. We should be a top 4 team in the west. And they are... The problem is that they don't look it. Maybe if they were getting better instead of doing the same ole things they were doing to start the season... Thunder have missed Westbrook for most of the year though. The lack of chemistry is real...but they have made little to no progress as far as I can tell. Plenty of alternatives to Mchale. Lionel Hollins springs to mind. SVG. Maybe even Finch. As far as his system goes. How about actually just using the players properly? Letting Lin be a playmaker, posting up Dmo, using more of our guys off ball...just having guys move a lot more than passing it around the perimeter or playing one on one ball. If you think this is about not giving Mchale credit when he wins it is not. Many of us feel that McHale is not going to get the most out of our Harden and Howard duo period. It's just that these regular season losses like last night where we have Parsons handling the ball suddenly for two of our biggest possessions remind us why it just won't happen with McHale. He's not going to get much credit for winning regular season games. People expect this team to win most of these games any ways based on the talent of this team.
I think george karl and lionell hollins are available. The 63% clip you are talking about could be 70% or more if we have an above average coach. Dude, mchale is being called out more now since his inadequacies as a coach in tight situations is showing. We are winning on pure talent alone, how else are you gonna explain our breakdowns in tight games?
How about you people do something about it instead of whining in here, petition it. Get moreys attention!
We are past our toughest schedule? Yeah, and we lost 2 in a row? Lol The nets are like us. They have the talent but have a horrible rookie coach. The knicks meanwhile are a badly managed franchise. Our record against the west certainly should be higher, wouldn't you agree? And we have a good coaching staff? Sampson is even worse than mchale in my book.
Not according to schedule. But please quantify your claim. Don't confuse head to head match up with overall quality. Portland point differential is in the top playoff tier. They have played better overall hence being neck and neck with the elite teams of the West. Perhaps. But they are currently better than us. You realize the number 5 seed follows the number 4 seed? A 1 seed, 2 game difference from the 4th seed prediction is causing you to lose sleep at night? For example? Great you can name names.... What are they currently doing? Are they in a position to coach next season? Do they want to coach next season? Do they fit with Morey's style and vision? Lin and Harden just don't work well sharing the same court. DMO post up will come along as he gets bigger as he hasn't been hitting his hook shot at a great clip. Really like DMOs potential but right now if his shots aren't falling all he can do is fall and flop. I agree about the ball movement. Not surprisingly, our offense doesn't do well when the ball gets sticky. BUT again.... we are a top offensive team so more often than not, it's not offense costing us games. And can you make the argument that your two coaches above got the most out of their players? Most coaches don't ever get the most out of their players.... This is a pro sport and at some point the players are just expected to have accountability. Lastly, this is seriously slightly over half the first season of the Howard/Harden duo. Again, SLIGHTLY over HALF the FIRST SEASON with these two players sharing the basketball and you've already made up your mind. People will b**** either way. McHale tries something different and lets Parsons handle the ball, people b****. If Harden gets trapped like Parsons, still b****. If the perfect play is set up and the shot is missed, still b****. Lastly, it's not like Parsons has bad handles. And we do win most of the games by definition..... And people expect this team to lose games too... So coaching is no to little factor in the wins? The wins were just preordained by the talent gods? Come on.... You aren't playing fair.
Gotta do better than think.... Don't won't to lose McHale to someone worse.... Based on what? What data are using to support your 7% difference? This thread was started last season. Whats are our record in tight situations? ZOMG a 2 game losing streak will ruin us! LOLZ, what are you in the drama club? So because we are past the toughest part of the schedule, we aren't allowed to lose 2 games in a row. You are really stretching. Nets and Roxs look nothing like each other. Their talent is on the wrong side of 30.... and their PG looks past his prime due to injuries. The point is there are bigger laughing stocks even if the Roxs fall out of the playoffs.... which isn't likely. Should be yea. I mean seriously..... how hard is it to hit one more free throw or make 1 more field game against the Grizzles on Friday. Thank God your book means diddly squat. But please, specifically why is Sampson worse in your book.
And for the record, I would gladly trade McHale for a better coach. But that's not realistic at this point from an availability standpoint and from an organization stand point. Hollins got fired after multiple playoff series and not reaching goals set by management (plus it was a matter philosophy).
Umm Point differential? They have also had one of the easier schedules in the NBA. Difference is that they usually win the games they are supposed to. Just because their record says so? Their record says they are better than Miami too... We are 3 games out of the playoffs as well...one game ahead of the very talented (I guess...) Phoenix Suns... Turnovers, poor defense, no ball movement...these things have not changed from the start of the season. This reminds me of the ole Kubiak argument. "There is no one better right now! We should just stick with Kubiak because we are too scared to make a bold move!" If you agree that Mchale is a mediocre coach then you replace him. The only way you keep him at this point is if you believe he's the coach to win you a championship. If you do not believe that then we are just wasting Howard's and Harden's time experimenting with him. I do not know if Hollins would coach this team with certainty, you asked for alternatives and I gave you them and now you are asking if they want to coach next season? Well only one way to find out is to offer them the job... They seemed to work pretty well when Harden first got here. Not sure what happened after that. Lin fans may be annoying at times but they are right about one thing. Having Lin stand around the 3 point line waiting to shoot threes is not how you use him. But it is. When they need points the most to quell a run or to win a game they struggle to get them. The revert to ISO ball and chucking up threes. When they are ahead and running all is well and good..when the other team decides that it's time to play lock down defense then they look absolutely atrocious on offense. When does the coach have accountability though? It's always "Play harder, we need to play harder..." and not once does he wonder that perhaps trying to run a PNR with Parsons for the last shot was not the best of ideas? Lionel Hollins got the most out of the Grizzlies. I don't think there is much doubt about that. He had them as contenders last year, no one went into the year thinking they were. This year they are just another team in the west. Even with Gasol they started off horribly...because their coach tried to make them be something they are not. Not play to their strengths...and now they are back playing Grizzly ugly ball and turning things around. Their coach made a mid-season adjustment to give up on playing at a faster pace because he realized that their team isn't built that way. Mchale's previous experience doesn't inspire much confidence. Not much ever really changes. Maybe if they just play harder or something I don't know. Lol I never whine about Harden getting the last shot. According to some here I'm the "HOF!" so don't put those opinions on me. I was in the game thread saying "Harden still has to get the ball here." Calvin Murphy said the same thing. I also doubt people would have complained if the perfect play was drawn up and Parsons just missed the open jumper. Maybe they would have complained that we should have been up more but not about the play. I said people expect them to win most of their games, that's what it is like when you have two superstars on your team. You are playing fair? The losses are on the players and not the coaches so you're just doing the opposite. What I am saying is it won't matter, the win and loss record doesn't matter because they are expected to win these games...but they are also expected to look like a top tier team. They do not. This is a time where teams usually get better and get some form of chemistry. This still looks like the same team that was thrown out there day one.
