[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Really, what was the result?

 

When bev plays over 30mins rockets are 9-9

When Lin plays over 30mins rockets are 15-6

Who should start isn't the big issue, but who should he on the floor may be something MOREY & MCHALE want to take a look at when saying the team needs lins spark off the bench.

 

I wish Lin was black so all these LOH wouldn't exist.

 

The gap is narrowing in Net rtg - I checked today and Bev is down to 10.2 and Lin at 4.5 as of today.

 

Oh sorry - I was looking at individual stats - have to go back and look at lineup stats.

 

Remember Linsanity? I don't know what the hell is up with Lin.

I was watching some old Linsanity clips and he looked like a completely different player (mindset). It's hard to believe it's the same guy.

 

Exactly...Bev fans are unbearable and they praise him like he's the most wanted starter that every team are waiting to have. His stats shows that he's an overrated scrub. My boy in Miami think this forum is a joke when he first came by and saw all these thread about Bev. He said with all the priases he though Bev was a superstar he didn't know about and this guy is a ball fanatic.

 

I would like to make a correction. I copy pasted the wrong line.

Patrick Beverley 2013/14
4/13 (30.8 fg%) 0/7 (0 3pt %) 3/4 ( 75 ft%)

 

One coach gave him the keys and let him be himself and play through turnovers, expecting him to be successful.

Another one shuts him down, says one thing and then does another, expecting him to fail.

 

Heck, you don't even need to go back that far - check almost any game from the 2nd half of last year thru Nov. Yes, something's afoot.

 

Apparently Pbev stats don't matter he can shoot 1-11 and we lose the game by 1 point yet he holds no contribution to the lost. As long he puts energy on the floor it doesn't matter how he performs 1-20fg lost would still satisfy Bev fans.

 

Can we please close this thread. We get it, Bev is better than Lin.

 

This is one of the best thread titles ever, I love seeing it on the front page each day.

 

Your last two posts reference "Bev fans". I don't know a single "Beverley only fan". Now Rockets fans, on the other hand, cheer for Patrick, certainly. Just like we cheer for Lin. Your tone sure sounds like you want to blame Beverley for this loss. That's fine, everyone deserves an opinion. But if you watched the game last night you cannot tell me the loss was on Beverley.

Patrick is starting because he's a low risk, low reward player. Lin is a higher risk, higher reward. I think it's that simple.

 

This. Bev does fit in better with the starting lineup, regardless of how you look at it (stats, style of play, etc.). But, Lin should be the one closing the game, he's had a long history of being able to "turn it on" in the 4th. I still think the best play to go to down the stretch is the Harden/Lin PnR. If McHale wants to "ride the hot hand" on some games like the Portland game, that's fine. But Lin should be closing the majority of the games, i.e. last night.

It's not just Lin. McHale has had a history of being inept in player development and minutes management (to be fair, it's not his job to put Lin in the ideal situations to succeed, it's his job to win games). I'd argue that his failure to continue to push Harden to develop his game/hold him responsible for his mistakes is his biggest detriment (although Harden's been pretty good of late, so maybe saying this is a bit premature).

 

Even though I feel as if Lin should start because of his contract, I enjoy watching either player. I do believe that Lin absolutely should be on the floor in crunch time at the end of games NOT Bev. I am not blaming the entire game on Beverly. I just believe Lin should be in the game when the game is going to be decided because he has been clutch his entire career unlike PBev.

 

If possible, I really think you should try trade Jeremy Lin or Asik for a legit PG. I haven't seen all Houston Rocket games but from my limited eye exposure of Lin, he's is still very shaky. I think The it would be ideal to have a solid or a legit PG who can run your team and Beverly off the bench. If Beverly's defense is superb as some suggested. Even then, one should hope for improvement on his 3PT shooting.

You should really bring Beverly off the starting line-up and bring in a legit PG who can be a scoring threat.


If Beverly is a Championship content PG like some fans suggested, then I don't know where to categorize PGs like Steph Curry, Tony Parker, Rondo, Chris Paul.


According to the stats, Bev is a scrub starting PG in this league.

Maybe he'll turn it around during play-off, but I think Rockets will have problem of Dwight and Harden turning over the ball in the play-off.Both Dwight and Harden lead the league in turn-over. If teams in the west amplify that issue, it might turn into a huge problem for Houston. Because elite teams can quickly convert fast break points from turn-over. A good distributor might be able help put both stars in Houston into a much more comfortable position.

 

He got paid & complacent. It is not the rockets fault Lin hasn't been very good with the others, it is Lin's fault.

 

I think McHale did a good job calling out Harden this game. He called a timeout right after an ugly Harden Iso, and put a stop to that right away. But Parsons is definitely the coach's pet. Man that fallaway 2 on the second last offensive play was terrible by CP. Taking a shot like that and still getting the ball in the lat play ... smh. Parsons is not a PnR players so why draw up a play for him and Howard. Does any smart person think the ball would go to a free throw shooter like Howard 25 feet from the basket, so of course they doubled up on CP. He didm't get the ball out fast enough, because he is not a p'n'r starter, but rather a finisher. No use blaming Bev as he was never meant to touch the ball that series. But CP totally missed a wide open Lin, again because he is not a p'n'r player. Blame has to go to coaching there.