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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. ronak0929

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    WE GET THE ZEN MASTER AND THIS TEAM WOULD BE THE TEAM OF THE DECADE

    BAD COACHING AND THE TEAM WILL NEVER SUCCEED NO MATTER THE TALENT LEVEL

    MAYBE WE NEED TO GO THE MIAMI ROUTE AND PROMOTE A CAMERA MAN HE COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB THAN MCFAIL
     
  2. Foxbur

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    But H&H at-least one of them have to step up every night for us. IF one of them step up today, we would have had this game... and PB is just turrrrrrible today. The paste of the game really slowed down when he came in. We usually score over 100+
     
  3. SirKen

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    Hey, I am not denying that injuries didn't take their toll on the team. However, I don't believe that McHale could have utilized the roster to its highest efficiency. I think this way because unlike some people, I think we underachieved last season. We wouldn't even have made to the playoffs if it wasn't for Jermaine O'Neal. Funny thing is that might have been a blessing in disguise as I wanted this team to get players like Iggy and Millsap instead of investing in Howard (to be fair, Howard has exceeded my expectations). McHale might have been replaced too, after not making it to the playoffs the same way, twice in a row.

    By the way, I blame Morey for not trading Asik in the off-season. Knowing McHale's ability, he should have expected the TT experiment to not work (I am of the opinion that it could have been utilized under a talented coach) and Rockets ended up with a difficult to trade player now.

    As you can see, I don't think everything has to do with coaching. However, I find that our losses are often connected to our system and that, to me, is telling that we will not go far in the playoffs.
     
  4. impressivegol

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    hours after the Grizzlies loss im still shaking my head in disbelief at the 4th quarter. i mean it's really one quarter that sums it up perfectly. Hot 3pt shooting covers all of the coaching incompetence. so many terrible possessions, several after breaks in play, making you wonder what's mchale even drawing up in huddle? what "plays" is he coaching in practices?

    i HATE that I'm going to do this but McFail has given me no choice. Rooting for a loss is too strong a statement, but part of me definitely feels it is in the TEAMS BEST INTEREST to lose in the first round of the playoffs if it means Morey makes a coaching change.

    don't be fooled this team will never be a "Winner" with McHale. Can win 55 games and have nice offensive numbers due to style and having nice talent alone. We're trying to do more then that, right guys?



    ps- anyone look at morey's twitter mentions after losses like that? lol it's a gold mine with all sorts of mchale jokes for days.
     
  5. Billionzz

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    You're right, they are an easy target. You have to admit though, Mchale didn't have a very good night coaching the Rockets.
     
  6. impressivegol

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    and it isn't like these nights are rare for Mchale. A weekly or bi-weekly occurrence this season. Was all good last year as we knew a return to the postseason was coming and that was enough to satiate us. But this team has higher goals now. also, don't forget he single-handedly halted this team's playoff push 2 seasons ago as well.
     
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    Seriously, mchale deserves the blame because he is just too slow to make any kind of adjustments in-game.

    The play offs will be a chess match, and would require more in-game adjustments. Mchale has priven time and again that he is not a coach for tight games.
     
  8. Play07

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    We'll here we are blaming it on Mchale again when your stars score 22 points, I & lee gets 19 points by himself with only 9 shots, Howard and harden did not step up ! I'm not giving mchale a pass he could've drew up a better play at the end.

    But like I've said plenty of time what does he have to work with besides drives into the paint "won't work against grizzlies good defenders on wing & paint"

    -kick out 3s & Howard's post up "he can get fouled, miss the shot or turn the ball over, Howard in the post is not consistent.

    Tonight is the night where we needed a pick a pop PF to open things up at top, mchale can run these playes I saw it all last year with ppat, he doesn't have a consistent big that can set the screen or knock down the shot, until we get that guy get use to see drives, 3s, and Howard ISO & harden ISO, I like jones out there but when you have him and bev starting you just don't have many plays that can be ran on offense. Understand the game before you just go blaming the coach
     
  9. Play07

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    You have to have the players to make adjustments with, with jones & bev starting that takes out high pick and pop screens etc mchale can run plays, when Lowry & dragic ppat were here we saw plays being ran all the time people are either new here or just didn't watch the rockets before.
     
  10. Voice of Aus

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    If chandler makes the game winner this thread doesn't get bumped.
     
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    The rockets have 12 players. Mchale could always make adjustment right there right?

    As an example, when Ibaka shut down the paint the last Okc game what exactly did mchale do that was an adjustment for you? Lol
     
  13. Play07

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    My point exactly we expect to much from what players we have, when that happens that's when you run high p&r to bring defenders out of the paint, who do we have that can knock down the shot decent that would force ibkaka to come out ? When that happens you mess with their defense and harden or Lin could drive, but ibkaka/brooks doesn't respect anyone's jumper like that to leave the paint, he would rather just clog the lane not let harden drive. We will never beat okc in a series if we don't have have a PF that can stretch us out get ibkaka out the paint
     
  14. Play07

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    Portland has lma that can spread them out run the high p&r

    Aldman has love- they ran one with him and Martin last night for game winner
    doc has griffin- even knocking down the shots that helps cp3 drive throw lobs easy
    Memphis has zbo
    Pacer- west
    heat-bosh
    Spurs-Duncan
    Okc- have durant and Westbrook they don't need it but still ibkaka has been shooting better

    this what you have to have a pf to make in the playoffs, or you will be living by the 3, Howard added a inside out game but he doesn't even pass it out the post much like we expected so that just ads more fuel to the fire
     
  15. markusbrutus

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    We have players who could hit midrange shots. Dmo, casspi, harden, lin, and the others. Almost all of them could hit the midrange except maybe Howard, Asik, and Brewer.

    The problem is we only take few midrange shots. We either post up, drive, drive and dish out, or throw a three.

    So Ibaka just patrols the paint and wait for our drives. Why? Because no one really shoots the midrange. It's not because we dont have players who couldnt hit them, we do. But its because our offensive philosophy is against the midrange and long 2s.

    So isn't that a coaching problem? Our system i think is seriously flawed in this regard.
     
  16. Play07

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    It's the system, coach & personnel, Casspi can hit but can't set a a solid screen, dmo and jones can't hit it consistent to make players switch on a high screen or have them come out the lane tes would rather dare them to shoot it.

    Look at any team that has been to the finals or wcf/ecf... Having a PF that can knock down the jumper is a must have or you will be liking area early exit, dirk, west, bosh, Duncan, zbo
     
  17. markusbrutus

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    Dude,

    We are a team living by the three and the paint.

    West, Zbo, duncan, Love, and even Griffin now have decent to above average midrange games that allow them to stretch the floor a bit. But in our team we really dont utilize the midrange game as much, so no comparison there really.
     
  18. markusbrutus

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    We have the personnel.

    But our system is flawed.

    And our coach is below average.

    Again we'd be drooling for some of those guys but let's be serious. Even if these players were rockets, but if we played the same system, they would take less midrange jumpers and attack the paint more. NOT UNLESS mchale changes the system up a bit to accomodate these players midrange game.
     
  19. Play07

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    Did you watch the rockets last year when PPAT played ? Did you watch the rockets before harden and Lin came? We use to run those plays with dragic, Kmart, scola, ppat... we don't have a the system because of the personnel, our NEW AGE is harden superstar ISO and drive kick, people really like harden so I don't know what the big problem is now ?

    Morey had to get rid of a lot of players as we have Howard now, what does mchale do incorporate Howard perfectly into our offense a inside outside game but he just doesn't kick it out much for the ball to move. This is rockets basketball as of now, deal with it
     
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