ClutchFans Game Thread: Grizzlies @ Rockets 1/24/2014

It was never intended for him, parsons should have pulled up, or Harden should have been the guy playing hero ball.

Bev was just a decoy on that play. Get off his baby maker.

 

Lol, no it won't.

 

Would love to have Courtney Lee.

 

BTW, our commentators, especially Drexler and Worrell have got to be the most annoying in the entire league. They just spiel complete crap for most of the game. I have no respect for their commentary. I SMFH at McHale's plays after time-outs but I SMFH more at our commentator's analysis!

 

I don't quite get it when we needed only 2 points to win but the last play looked as if we were trying to get 3 points instead. Losing a game out of 82 games is not big a deal but losing it this way makes you feel uncomfortable. Mchale/Sampson coaching makes you feel bad. The team would have done much better if...

As for Lin issue, for whatever reasons behind the closed door, his number is definitely up and will part away from the Rockets for sure. It is only a matter of how and when. IMO everyone inside know it but ain't gonna speak publicly. Bev will always be the starter over Lin regardless of how they play. Fans here who love or hate them in forum can freely express their thoughts of them, however, Lin is a goner and that's the inevitable. Lin can be a good PG if he is played the right way.

As for Asik, is he really still injured so that he can't play for the time being? It may be true but IMO I also I doubt this is only excuse for not trying to play for the team. This is more like a 50/50 situation that is injury and unwilling to play. Asik is a goner too and he is just like Lin. The only difference is Asik public spoke out he wants out and Lin says nothing but he knows he will be out sooner or later.

When we criticize how players play, it will be very easy negatively or positively. But if you really want to criticize players objectively on playing games, you should try to watch each game from the beginning to the end. You should pay attention to all details and not just the box score. Even better, not just to watch what you like and what you don't like.

This is just my rant, as always, no need to agree if you don't. Bear in mind our thinking and comments will never change how the management, the coaching and the players how they play games. Perhaps the only possibility it could happen if the team plays so bad and becomes a bottom of lottery teams. In our case, the Rockets is not.

 

McHale hasn't handled Lin well this year, but he gave him plenty of opportunities last year as a starter, and he was inconsistent. Lin couldn't handle Linsanity. He admitted that himself.
Lin is a good player and I want him to succeed, but he isn't as good as many people think he is. We don't need Linsanity, we need better overall PG play.

 

Transference is a phenomenon characterized by unconscious redirection of feelings from one person to another.

Many ClutchFans hate Lin because they don't like Lin fans. Without Lin fans attacking the Rockets team when Lin doesn't play well they would root for Lin (and still be more critical of his play because he is owed over $20 million this season and next). There is no real hate for Lin, just his fans who hate on the Rockets if Lin doesn't play well or receive his hard earned minutes.

Jeremy is a starting PG and he sucks at creating offense when defenses collapse on him while he drives to the basket. His speed/agility and ball handling don't seem to be the problem. He just needs to slow the game down and find the open man.

Lin fans hate Beverley because he takes Lin's minutes. Not because Lin is inconsistent or McHale prefers Beverley's defense or even Aaron's consistency from three. They also hate Harden (who takes shots away from Lin), Howard (who is overrated and didn't make Lin better and may have even made him worse by taking shots away from Lin), and the rest of the Rockets because their fans hate Lin fans and attack their favorite player when LOFs get mad at Harden for not passing the ball.

The truth is if Lin isn't knocking down threes or jumpers then McHale will always go with the better defender (Beverley). He would rather have Harden turn the ball over on a drive than Lin. Sure, Lin can finish at the rim at a higher % but he is more turn over prone than Harden when he drives. Would you rather have a 57% chance at 2 points with an 8% change of turning the ball over, or a 65% chance of making the layup/floater with a 15% chance of turning it over? This is Morey's offense. Hammer the efficiency. That's why Dwight doesn't get the ball on the last possession. There is a good chance he will get fouled and receive no call and if he does then he is still a terrible FT shooter.

McHale's and Morey's offense lacks versatility (mainly because it's built around Harden who is not versatile like Kobe, Durant, and McGrady) AND taking turns on offense. It's more likely to get Harden injured by trying to drive on tired legs. But the Rockets still have half a season to see if they can make it work before the playoffs. I don't think it will. They need to figure out how to get everyone involved and win as a team. Fatigue, and defenses are too smart to let one player beat them when they buckle down on defense to avoid giving up two points. Basketball is a team game and you need to drive, post, pass, play defense and rebound to create high percentage baskets. Also, I also don't believe the extra point from attempting so many threes is making up for the lower FG%, nor the "extra" offensive rebounds. If long threes result in more offensive rebounds than mid range jumpers than why aren't the Rockets getting more than 1 shot attempt per trip? It's because this is a myth in the NBA. You want your best rebounders (C and PF) to fight and steal the rebounds over your back court who have to get back on defense or risk giving up two points. There is no way Conley is going to let Lin run Lin or Beveley run past him to grab a long rebound. He is going to box him out if he notices this tendency, let Z-bo grab the board, and run to the other side for a quick two points.

tl;dr (you're loss) Lin needs to improve his game offensively if he wants the nod over Beverley's defense and Harden's game of taking a contested jumper or driving to the basket is too one predictable and easy to stop along with the Rockets offense.

 

Fixed.

Good morning .

 

I think you are absolutely right. Lin looks demorilized on the court.

 

Lin actually did very well last year. Shea in his book Basketball Analytics. Has Lin listed as the 45th best player in NBA. Only Harden and Parsons were better players than Lin. He is a Prof. of Math and he claims that his numbers are better measures than others. It would be good to read this book.

 

They have plenty scoring threats so that's not the problem. Last night we played Memphis brand of basketball, not our uptempo face pace brand. The 1st half came back and bit us in the a**. This lackadaisical no energy to start these games is another major problem that we have.

 

Jeremy Lin, PG 27 4-6 0-1 1-2 0 1 1 3 2 1 2 1 -2 9



vs


Patrick Beverley, PG 34 1-11 1-8 0-0 2 1 3 2 0 1 0 5 +1 3
James Harden, SG 40 2-11 1-4 5-6 0 2 2 13 1 0 1 2 +4 10

Its okay for bev and harden to go 3-22 and 2-12 but lin at 4-6 and 0-1 is not given the reins to change it up?

 

Tell me how the math adds up 4-6 and 0-1 vs the combined total of Bev and Harden. Explain how your entire post adds up.

 

funny post is funny. long and hollow.

yeah, right, no one attacks and nick picking lin. yeah, right, there is no Lin hater out there. you believe what you believe. it doesn't make you right though. go rockets. go Lin, don't let doubters get you. just like you've done before, prove it, prove them wrong again and again. not this bev, not this Mchale, not this clutch can ever hold you back.

go rockets, real rockets fans want Lin. (not as 6th man)

 

Understand the frustration with the play calling, or lack thereof, at the end of the game, but this game was lost in the 2nd Q. Hated the Casspi/Motie/Jones lineup. As for Bev v Lin, this is a game where Lin's offense was needed more than Bev's defense. Let's see if adjustments are made today! Go Rockets.

 

Lin was pretty passive though and had trouble on the dribble, he struggles against athletic defenders, and for whatever reason he plays passive at times.

His confidence comes and goes, he needs to just play and stop worrying so much.

DD

 

a very frustrating game but i actually see it as a GOOD sign.
think about it:
in a night where the team (parsons not included) shoot:
21/62 over all and 4/24 from the 3 we kept in the game and lost by 1 point having a decent chance to win against a STRONG opponents

let me repeat it: we kept up till the nd with 1 of our main competitors in a game where 80% of the team had an off night.
yes we lost, but we finally seen good defence and good teamwork (was very pleased to c Harden NOT going all iso ) so i actually take his game as a good thing regardless of the lost

 

Rematch tonight, payback time.

DD

 

He worries because one wrong move and McHale is going to bench him.

 

I think we need to stop worrying about whether Lin looks demoralized or whether Beverly should start; and accept that we do not have a starting point guard and it is going to continue to cost us games.