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Is Kevin McHale our most controversial coach in franchise history?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by htwnbandit, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. count_dough-ku

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    Did you read what I wrote? AT THE END OF HIS RUN IN 2003. Once the league got rid of illegal defense after the 2001 season(I might add almost entirely because of his ISO-ball with Francis and Mobley), Rudy's inability to diversify his offense was exposed and he became a vastly inferior coach. And it's not just with the Rockets. His brief stint with the Lakers was a disaster. He dumped the triangle offense and basically just ISO'd Kobe all the time.
     
  2. tinman

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    You must have been mad when tmac was here
     
  3. tinman

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    We got blown out by 40 points . We didn't win .

    Nobody fixed the point blow out.

    The Utah series proven we didn't have the right superstar to lead us anywhere.

    But we won with artest and Yao and Rick adelman.
    That was the right combination of coaching and players
     
  4. markusbrutus

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    Stop it, man.

    Don't bring that up. Damn, why do you guys think it always has to be about that guy? No one was talking about that here.

    And puhlease, trading him wont make mchale a coaching genius.
     
  5. htwnbandit

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    Yeah, and I was mad when Hakeem was here too and had 4 straight first round exits in the late 80s-early 90s.

    And Game 7 was not fixed, Games 5 was. If we had won that there would be no Game 7 because we would've won in Game 6.

    And you blame T-Mac for losing the Utah series and give Yao a pass for getting shut down by the smaller Boozer in Game 7 of that series at home?

    Talk about a hypocrite.
     
  6. noone

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    Mchale ran a pick and roll at the top of the key for chandler parsons and Dwight Howard. Chandler Parsons was hot. Dwight Howard is playing like a mvp.
    Chandler Parsons didn't make the best decision it happens. It's in the regular season. The regular season is for learning from mistakes. You don't fire a coach for mistakes made in the regular season.

    Memphis is a good team and is like a wounded animal with it's back against the wall. Losses happen I don't see what the big deal is.
     
  7. yummyhawtsauce

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    Last year, they were a pretty sick team, blowing out teams on the regular. now we struggle to beat easy teams, and let leads slip. or we have to claw our way back to play the entire game to get a win

    biggest concern is executing in crucial moments of playoffs. there will be defence defence defence facing them scoring will not be easy
     
  8. tinman

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    Yeah buddy. You forgot that they dismantled that western conference team by cocaine and Sampsons injury.

    Tmac didn't win **** for the rockets . We paid his ass 25$ million a year and we got nowhere in six years.

    Don't ever compare Hakeem to tmac,

    b****
     
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  9. htwnbandit

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    Okay asswipe.

    I never compared Hakeem to T-Mac, learn to read before I pimpslap the tin out of you again.

    Again, Yao was on his teams but you never say anything about him. Most of the teams we had were unhealthy, not just T-Mac or even Yao. 09 was when most of the roster minus T-Mac was healthy, and we got Ron Artest. Either way Yao couldn't even finish the Laker series. So you can't blame only T-Mac for being injured or losing playoff series.

    So STFU and GTFO.
     
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  10. Patience

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    I don't get this myth among certain fans that the team was so much better last year. Talk about revisionist history. Check the records, please.
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    Nah, the internet just makes everyone seem more whiney.
     
  12. SirKen

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    This season is not over yet. All it takes is a bad losing stretch like the one last year and we will be back to where we were.
     
  13. AstroRocket

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    The most controversial coach is whoever the current coach is. Since the time this board came to be, posters have railed against Rudy's isos, JVG's unimaginative offense, and Rick Adelman's rotations and lack of playcalling. Each has has massive threads calling for their heads. Unless your team is routinely making deep playoff runs, this is generally how it is with every fanbase.

    Dude, you're a vet. Don't call other posters b****es. You really should f'ing know better. That's ridiculous.
     
  14. tinman

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    Yao was the guy we drafted and he developed into an all star and then he helped us to the 2 round of the playoffs and then he got hurt in the Lakers series.

    You bring in tmac who's the highest paid player on the team and a former scoring champ and he brings us nothing. like literally nothing.

    he got JVG fired and pissed off Rick Adelman. then he quit!
     
  15. htwnbandit

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    Once again the reason we won that 09 series was because we had an actual healthy roster.

    T-Mac came from teams that had little around him except maybe Vince Carter. He WAS those teams' offense. He had Yao here. And JVG was fired because Yao lost Game 7 to the Jazz at home not being able to get a single rebound from the smaller Boozer late.

    Adleman left after T-Mac did. So that point makes zero sense.
     
  16. Billionzz

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    Come on, just because we didn't advance doesn't mean Tmac didn't bring nothing. You know and I know he played better in the playoffs than the regular season.
     
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    There's nothing controversial about how bad he is. The only question is do Morey and management have the balls to fire him, or are they happy playing with stats and not getting a championship? For all his advanced stats, if he doesn't see our numerous problems then that's a problem.
     
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    That's not entirely why Dwight came to Houston. At the end of the day, i think he really loves having a HC who was a (legendary) Big Man. That was a critical component of our sales pitch. Removing McHale from the equation, without Dwight's blessing, will send a message that the FO's priorities have changed. Congrats, you've just created another Dwightmare.

    After reading about all the nonsense between the Grizz FO, Hollinger and Hollins, there is no way in hell he'll be with a stats heavy squad.

    Also, please leave George Karl alone. You could have made the same arguments about playoff success with Adelman, and he isn't doing too hot in Minny. Besides, I seriously doubt that he has the energy or desire to make it through another season.

    Although I have my reservations, we should all hope for an ugly divorce between Thibs and the Chi FO. He's undoubtedly the best (likely) option in my mind.
     
  19. tinman

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    No it doesn't. Adelman leaving has nothing to do with Tmac's beef with Adelman's minutes that he was giving him after he returned from surgery.

    Tmac lied and said he was BACK. he took that lie to New York and then he DNPed the last end of the season and the Knicks dumped him like Taco Bell leftovers .
     
  20. tinman

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    Alright, I apologize. when I see the words Hakeem and Tmac in the same post, that's just like seeing someone keying your car or someone's dog taking one on your lawn.

    Don't do that. they don't belong in the same post. or thread. or world.
     

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