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Thoughts on Ryan Mallet as new QB

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by maybewatt, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Well the last time it was traded it was for 3, then again that was trading to a moronic team like the Redskins for bag of hype RG3
     
  2. whag00

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    If you look at the draft value chart the 1st pick is worth both of the browns first rounders plus their 2nd rounder.
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    That chart is a good starting point, but it's not like changing a dollar for three quarters, two dimes and a nickle, where everybody agrees that a dollar is a dollar.

    In a year like this where it is weaker at the top spot, the Texans are likely to get less than in a year where Andrew Luck is available. It is likely to be a soft market if you are looking to get out of #1.
     
  4. Remii

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    If Luck was available in this draft, I seriously doubt trading the #1 pick would be under consideration. But there is an RG3 available _ Johnny... And there is a Washington Redskins _ Cleveland Browns.

    But I don't believe McNair is going to trade the pick if Clowney impresses at the combine and especially during his interviews.

    The Rams might get them another garbage bag full of picks this year again.
     
  5. Mr.Scarface

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    Yeah...that worked out well with Matt Cassell:roll eyes: And he played for a season...lol.

    Just because he is a New England backup, doesn't mean SQUAT.
     
  6. jimmyv281

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    We need a guy that can buy time in the pocket.... stay in the pocket and make a big play....... did anyone see the NFC Championship game....
     
  7. josephnicks

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    mallet is pretty much a guy that needs a clean pocket so ...
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    I can't confidently say that is true. BOB's offense won't leave a guy like him out to dry very long. Quick, timing based, short passes don't require a clean pocket.
     
  9. david_rocket

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    Yeah, because that worked for Seattle:

    traded for Matt Flynn just after his huge game vs Detroit and being behind a great QB like Rodgers for 3 years but selected Russell Wilson, so you have Flynn, "ready to go" or the rookie trying to get up to speed in Wilson.

    yeah, they definitely went with the QB that was the backup of an elite QB, instead of going with the rookie. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Remii

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    Flynn wasn't considered 1st round talent coming out of college _ Mallet was... And it worked for us with Schaub who was holding a clipboard behind Vick.

    But I get your point. It doesn't always work.
     
  11. HollaIFyaHEMI

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    When was the last time a backup QB was traded for and became a star QB?
     
  12. jimmyv281

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    If you count him barley beating the Bengals once and he threw an interception working then we roll the dice with mallet..... I don't trust this guy he will be run through torn in half in the pocket...
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    How do you define a "star QB"? Is Average Joe Flacco a "star"? His team won the SB last year.

    Is Eli Manning a "star QB"? His team has won 2 SB's.

    Is Ben Roethlisburger a "star QB"? His team has won 2 SB's

    If those guys qualify as "star QB's" then Schaub in his prime qualified as well because he was as good or better than those guys.

    If the last 2 years proves anything it's that you don't have to have the greatest QB to get to the SB. In the last 2 years we've had Average Joe, Colin Kaepernick, and Russell Wilson in the SB, you don't really need a star QB if your defense is performing well enough.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    Considering star QBs are rare in the first place, the chances of two of them landing con-currently on the same team are pretty slim. And when you add in how rare NFL trades are, the odds get even slimmer. Holding the fact that Mallet is a backup to Tom Brady against him is not any kind of logic worth applying to the decision whether to trade for him or not.
     
  15. HollaIFyaHEMI

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    OK...so keep Schaub over trading for Mallet...I agree.

    Who is the last backup QB to be traded for, who then sustained the starting position for a winning NFL team (besides Schaub).
     
  16. HollaIFyaHEMI

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    You cannot deny that trading for a backup QB is something that basically never works out. I don't care who the starter is (A-Rod/Flynn, Vick/Kolb, Brady/Cassell, Brunell / Rob Johnson, McNabb/Feely, Elway/Lewis)
     
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    Doug Flutie?
     
  18. DonnyMost

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    Have you ever considered that maybe they fail more often than not because teams that are trying to trade for a QB usually suck?

    Also, I think the failure rate for high-draft-pick QBs is probably about equally as high as it is for QBs that get traded for.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I didn't suggest that. Schaub is no longer in his prime and is done as a starting caliber QB, that doesn't diminish what he was able to do back when he was good.

    I don't see the point you are trying to make here. If O'Brien see's something in Mallett, expect a trade, if he doesn't, there won't be one. Nothing else is really relevant.
     
  20. HollaIFyaHEMI

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    Seattle did not suck, Flynn did.

    Also, there has never been a traded backup QB who became a star QB (minus Favre). There have been SEVERAL superstar QBs that were drafted. Even if the failure rate was equal (it isn't), the success rate or the potential success of DRAFTING a QB is much higher.
     

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