With all this talk of us needing a high intensity, strong, rebounding power forward rather than Mo "The NO-SHOW" Taylor, does anyone else miss Barkley a little? Perhaps we can lure him back j/k ------------------
I'd take him in a second... He has the most heart of any player I've ever seen... Face it, the guy had no athleticism whatsoever, yet he was one of the greatest... You don't get that far without heart... Mo Taylor is the lion in Alice In Wonderland... ------------------ Check out my homepage! Loads of sports pics! http://www.public.asu.edu/~sykim/
Barkley had no atheticism? Barkley had plenty of athleticism. Look at his early years and you tell me how a 6'5" PF that weighed about 260 lbs could take the ball coast-to-coast on the dribble for a dunk. He even did the behind-the-back dribble on breakaways several times to get around PG's. Anybody that short and bulky that could rebound like he does has plenty of athleticis. He was short, stocky, and overweight, but still athletic. ------------------ If you like larger booties, Domanique Sachsa would be on that list as well. Jeff of SaveMeSomeBooty.com fame in the BBS Hangout forum (hope the man doesn't run for a political position - he's dead meat)
He is EXACTLY what this young team needs...a vocal veteran that they can respect. DaDakota ------------------ If Mankind evolved from Monkeys and Apes, then why are there still Monkeys and apes?
"Barkley had no atheticism? Barkley had plenty of athleticism. Look at his early years and you tell me how a 6'5" PF that weighed about 260 lbs could take the ball coast-to-coast on the dribble for a dunk. He even did the behind-the-back dribble on breakaways several times to get around PG's. " Doing all those things require SKILL as opposed to ATHLETICISM... Jason Williams of te Kings has plenty of skill, and not that much athleticism... Any fat guy can learn how to dribble... Not any fat guy can do dunks... Barkley wasn't the highest leaper or the quickest guy... He was a great player who used smarts and fundamentals to become a legend... His rebounds didn't come from his athleticism, it came from sheer will and his tremendous strength... He's probably the first one to tell you that he didn't have athleticism... ------------------ Check out my homepage! Loads of sports pics! http://www.public.asu.edu/~sykim/
and the anniversary is coming... owwow kidrock...how old are you. clearly you did not see what Dr of Dunk is talking about when barkley was at the 76ers. didn't you even see the highlight reels that showed last year. Barkley's explosive, high-flying slams are what made him such a huge fan favorite. It surely wasn't his spitting skills.
even if he didnt see the 76er years( i only saw them on highlight reels), he could have seen the phoenx years. or even occasional couple plays when he was with us. For a 6'5 250-270 pound, he was athletic as it gets. in his early years he was as quick as guys like duncan or webber. As hakeem described chuck in "living a dream"(hakeems autobiography) There was this short chubby man at center court that was more explosive and quick than our guards. I wish that charles could have gotten in a little bit better shape(losing 10-15 pounds) Michael, Scottie, and Magic have all said that Chuck had more talent than any one of them, just not the desire to get into better shape. And jason williams having skils but not athleticism...no, if anything it is the other way around.
Barkley'd be the first one to tell you a lot of things... but anyway... Barkley was one of the most explosive players on offense and on the defensive glass in his early years. That was not just skill that allowed him to get that position and notoriety, it was athleticism. You say his strength helped him get rebounds. Strength is part of athleticism. You can teach any fat guy to dribble around his back, but try to get anybody Barkley's stature/size back then to go for more than 25-30 minutes and see how many you get. Barkley was an athletic freak-of-nature. As a comparison... look up one rotund John Williams out of LSU. Incredible handles for a big man, but he ate himself out of the NBA. He had skills, but couldn't carry the weight. He lost his athleticism because of huge weight gains. Oliver Miller may be another one. He could have been a great post player, but he ate himself out of that. We can argue this endlessly, but all I have to do is pop in an old tape of Barkley when he played for the 76'ers back in the mid-to-late 80's and I can see the athleticism the guy had. It was incredible to watch that big a mass moving the way he did. His explosive leaping ability, along with great positioning, is what set him apart from other players taller than he was. It's why he could get rebounds in the paint at will. ------------------ If you like larger booties, Domanique Sachsa would be on that list as well. --Jeff of SaveMeSomeBooty.com fame in the BBS Hangout forum (hope the man doesn't run for a political position - he's dead meat)
Barkley is my favorite basketball player of all time! I wish he was still playing! I would do anything to make Barkley come out of retirement. I was very sad when Barkley said he was going to retire. He was the only reason why I like the Houston Rockets. One year ago yesterday Barkley injured his left leg in Philadelphia that sidelined him for 62 games. Thinking back on it makes me feel sad. After Barkley got injured, the next day I woke up late. I did not smile or laugh all day. I was sad all day. I didn't want to talk or do anything. ------------------
Got that right. I'd do anything and I mean anything including my own life just to see the Chuckster come out of retirement and see the Rockets win another championship. Or at least see him play this coming all star games. That's why I'm not surprised that according to NBA insiders the Chuckster got a couple of hundred write-in votes for this year's All star game. ------------------ President of the Sir Charles Barkley Fan Club
He wasn't always fat. At least, not by my definition... DoD is right - he used to be pretty damn quick. And ke's always had agressive instincts. Those are not 'skills', they are not learned. You can't train enough to get them. One either has them or he doesn't. Sir Charles had them. That said, bringing him back as a player would be a really BAD idea. He's hopelessly out of shape now, and he is old. Bring him onto the staff if you can throw enough money at him (yeah, right), but his playing days are over. ------------------
