Sources: McHale is trying to get the team to acquire Mike Dunleavy

Yeah, I don't know what the fascination is with adding more "offense-first" type players to our roster. I realize that our current identity is a running-gunning offensive team but we're never going to improve if we don't start adding better defenders to this roster.

 

Vecsey prolly got that rumor from cyberx's post on this board.

 

I am probably missing something but using the amnesty on Boozer in the summer doesn't make a ton of sense. It would seem he has more trade value at that point (as opposed to now) because at that point he would be an expiring after 2014-2015.

I would expect they try to trade him and then amnesty him around the trade deadline if they can't get anything.

 

Why does an "expiring contract" have trade value?

Because a team who wants to dump future salary on an unwanted LONGER contract would at times be willing to pay you something to trade that contract in exchange for your expiring contract.

Unless the Bulls are willing to do this king of transaction and take on extra 2015-16 money the "expiring" nature of Boozer's deal doesn't give it significant trade value.

 

Why in the world would Chicago drop Noah? He's one of the best centers in the league, he's signed to a very reasonable $12-13 million through 2015-2016, and he's in his prime.

Chicago is looking at a long term tank. IMO, this is just for one season, ala Spurs circa late 90s. Their starting lineup could very well be Rose/Butler/?/Mirotic/Noah + whoever they get from their own 2014 pick and Charlottes pick. They are very well positioned to compete over the next 5 years, assuming Rose can stay healthy.

 

I'm up in the air on this.

We all know our bench is weak, Garcia has been awful, we need another shooter and some overall depth would be useful for a team with championship aspirations such as ours.

Dunleavy can shoot, he's logged minutes at SG (this year yet can play multiple positions), he's smart, fundamentally sound and fits the team-first philosophy.

That's all well and good. My issue: I'm worried he's just another Casspi. A guy that's primarily a shooter and is overall solid on both ends of the court yet doesn't bring any nastiness to the team. Just another defender that's smart enough to know all of the right spots to be in and gives effort, but doesn't change the game with his physical tools or ability to take his defensive intensity to the next level. A next level defender is kind of what we need on this team for the perimeter. I sort of made up that term, but you get the idea.

The question: is that type of player out there? The type of player that has the data to back it up. The type of player where the advanced stats say in no uncertain terms this player's team is overwhelmingly better with him on the floor.

That's not really Dunleavy.

Maybe a Jae Crowder type, for example? Trying to think outside of the box here. Thoughts?

 

The 3 ball is going to be a big weapon for every team in the playoffs. A team that shot <30% from 3 in Dec needs this guy, give up Brewer and DMo for him.

 

Dunleavy > Delfino > Garcia & Casspi

Dunleavy's not the solution but he'll help the Rockets and maybe Parsons' development too. At 3.3M Dunleavy will be a bargain.

The major upgrades this team needs can only be gained through trading Asik & Lin's contracts.

 

I don't think his post is about the Bulls wanting to dump Noah, but rather if the Bulls want to guarantee losses, they should dump Noah and the coach. That's how I read it.

Maybe we could trade Dmo + Brewer + McHale for Dunleavy and Thibs?

 

Do we really need a 'major' roster upgrade? I feel as if the only thing our roster is really lacking is...wait for it...a defensive center. If Asik played, we'd be good to go roster-wise imo.

Some players need to mature, our team needs to collectively get better and have better chemistry, but it'd be a contending roster.

 

Haha trade for Thibs, like Doc?

I like Thibs a lot as a coach and I KNOW he'd make our team defense MUCH better. My one fear is that he brings a certain atmosphere to the team that might rub Dwight the wrong way -- Thibs sorta kills happiness a bit, like Pop. Not saying they aren't amazing coaches...I personally think Pop is the best coach in the league right now...but you know, the atmosphere they put into place lol. Maybe that's not that big of an issue, but I don't know if I'm willing to risk it for THIBS (I would for Pop!).

Also, Thibs likes to run his players into the ground. Parsons and Harden are getting too many minutes as it is; I would rather not end up with players who can't play a few yrs from now.

 

Didnt i hear some rumours of Lin going to the Bulls?

Trade Lin and get Dunleavey + others coming back.

Only problem is Bull's owner is a scrooge and probably doesn't want Lin's balloon payment.

Oh and trade McHale for Thibs while we're at it.

 

Does no one actually read through these threads?

That rumor is pretty much debunked.

 

Dunleavy is not any kind of defensive player. The rockets really need a defensive player since Lin can take the offensive role in the court when Harden is resting. What does MaHale want to do? Just outscore other teams all the time?

 

Agreed that Dunleavy would be useful and fits. Not disagreeing with that.

My concern is that we're stockpiling the same sort of players with similar limitations. Dunleavy isn't that much better than the players you compared him to.

But I get it: depth is a good thing.

Generally speaking, you're probably right. That's why I'm trying to encourage people to think outside of the box with the Jae Crowder example. Somebody along those lines obviously wouldn't require a huge Lin/Asik type contract to be involved.

 

The entire Bulls team outiside of rose is a salary dump. They want a top 5 pick to put next to him

 

since mchale is not happy with lin, trade him for dunleavy. the bulls wants lin.

 

the bulls have been inquiring about lin. the wanted feng for lin but rockets snooz.

 

they wanted to trade deng for lin.