[Hickory-High] Did J.R's Boneheaded Shot Hurt the Knicks?

It's not a "bad" shot during the flow of the game, but under the circumstances, it was not just a bad shot, but a piss poor shot. You hold the ball for the last second shot on a tied game unless you have a layup. That's just smart basketball.

I like watching JR Smith play, it's like watching karma in action.

 

I didn't think it was a horrible shot, honestly. He was wide open and it was off of an offensive rebound, those are statistically very good shots. It was in no way as bad as Barg shot a couple of weeks ago. It would have been if they Knicks had a slight lead.

What was a dumb play was that Barg had a wide open layup after the offensive rebound on the last play of the game. Dwight was out of the play practically and the tallest Rocket between him and the basket was Brooks, I think. I know the Knicks were probably going for 3 but I would have went for the bucket to tie up the game at least.

 

You are over-analyzing when it comes to JR and these situations.

Once he got that ball in his hands, he was not thinking, "Well geez...might as well take this because even if we go to OT, we dont have a good chance to win."

NO.

He is thinking, "CHUCK!"

This guy has a history of making bone headed plays since his Nugget days.

In fact, both Melo and JR since their Nuggets days have shown that they have low Bball IQ and are very consistent when it comes to making terrible decisions with the ball especially during crunch time.

 

I thought it was a bad shot even if he made it. At that point of the game, keeping the ball till the end of the game is more important than adding 3 points. Let's say if he made it with 17 ticks left, we would have tried to extend the game by hitting quick two and give us a chance to win the ball game. In that situation, just keep the ball and make the last shot (which leaves the opponent no chance to win the game), don't give the opponent any chance to extend the game in the regular period.

 

This. I thought Beno should get more blame than JR. He is the PG, he was supposed to take a step back and make sure everybody knows the clock situation when the ball was in his hand. My suspicion is that he actually wanted JR to take that open 3 by the way how quickly he swung the ball to JR. In addition, in the last play, he should have shot the three instead of keeping scrambling and ended up taking a contested midrange floater, one of the worst shots in the basketball.

 

if he doesn't take the shot they either win or we go to overtime.

if he takes that shot we get a chance to take the lead, and did.

there is no downside to NOT taking that shot. there was a downside to taking it.

 

Ask Mario Elie and the Kiss of death shot with 7 seconds left.

DD

 

That foul hurt the Knicks, but I can forgive someone in that situation. Two guys went for a rebound and a foul was called. Also the Knicks got the ball back and still had a chance to tie, or even win the win. I can't be too upset about a guy being called for a foul while hustling for a rebound.

As for the shot J. R. took. It would have been better to take the last shot, but they were on the road, playing the second game of a back to back, and he had a wide open shot, so I don't think it was all that bad. I can understand the fans being upset, but fans are always upset about everything.

 

If it was the other way around and Casspi had the ball the game was tied with 20 sec left would you A) Scream "WTF???" if he took that open shot?? or B) Whisper to yourself "Well he was open, i guess he had to take it".

 

43% chance he makes it (giving them 87% winning the rest of the way)

Still, it'd seem the odds decrease by still giving the other team a chance to tie with plenty time left. So whatever slight advantage you gain with the open look is given right back. If he misses, there's 60% chance the OTHER team wins.

Its basically saying would you rather take an unsecured 40% shot at winning leaving chance to tie, or a 33% SECURED WIN.

Seems like a situational call for Bill Belichick and Daryl Morey to compute.

Myself I'd go with conventional approach and control my own fate leaving little chance for other team (And yes the Beno foul was unnecessary and the worse play)

 

The bargnani shot and the Jr shot were in two completely different scenarios

 

to me it was a bad shot. You should never give the other team the last shot on a tied game. Even more if u take into account his 1-7 shooting from 3. Safe play usually is better.

 

wow. it was the same situation with bargnani. the difference is that everyone went on bargs but now people are defending JR. lol

 

How was it the same situation?

They were up by two against the Bucks. All they needed to do was to hold the ball and get to the line.

They were tied against us and he was WIDE OPEN. It was still a dumb shot, but not as dumb as Bargnani.

 

I didn't see it as a bad play at the time. You can't draw up a play where you get a more wide open shot than JR got. He is one of the guys expected to take 3 point shots for the Knicks. If he makes it, we are crushing the Rockets for leaving him that wide open at that point in the game. Holding the ball for the last shot seems "obvious" after the miss, but taking an uncontested shot when tied on the road in the second game of a back to back is pretty far down the list of worst bone headed decisions I have seen to end a game.

In comparision, Bargnani's shot was terrible because they were already ahead and didn't need to shoot again to win.

 

Clyde, of all people, should know why you don't shoot with time on the clock.

Spoiler

 

Should of held the ball and let melo take the last shot.

 

Yup He said it himself, thought they were down 2 points...Bone head play by a bone head player. Doesn't matter if he was open it's 50% chance of missing and giving the rockets the ball and lose, whereas if you hold the ball till last few seconds 50% chance of making or missing but 100% chance of not losing.