And why would Cleveland give up all those picks for a QB that isn't better? It's gotta go both ways....
According to NFL draft pick value for this trade: Houston gives up: 1-1 (value of 3,000) Cleveland gives up: 1-5, 1-24, 2-37, which have a value of 1,700 + 740 + 530 = 2,970. If you add next year's 3rd rounder, it would be almost exactly even. Pretty fair trade. I think if you're Cleveland you make that trade if you're convinced that Bridgewater is head and shoulders better than the other QB options (Manziel, Mariota?, Bortles, Carr).
Because Im sure plenty of teams will covet Bridgewater as the #1 QB in the draft...The Browns had 5 probowlers, 4 of them on the offensive side of the ball...the biggest thing they are lacking is a competent QB.
Yup, from a Cleveland perspective, they've been fondling and toying around with QBs for too long...it's time they step up and try to address the position. If they think Bridgewater is the guy, they will absolutely go for it. Just depends on what the Texans personnel thinks of Bridgewater.
Did you even watch the video. And do not stop their watch all the video you can and explain how Bridgewater is not NFL ready. It's not just about the competition. It's not just about stats. You can't just talk in genralities. Watch how he makes decisions on the line. Watch his footwork, how he side shuffles his feet and avoids Defensive Lineman. How he throws accurate passes on the run. Watch how he destroyed the number one defense in the Sugar bowl. Watch how he completes passes downfield to 5'11" recievers not 6'5". Watch how he does what he does with an inferior running attack and OLine. The run doesn't open up the pass for Louisville. It's the other way. Quit typing so much and watch some video. Have an open mind you might learn something.
They would really have to fall in love with Bridgewater to move up though since they can stay where they are and likely get Bortles, Manziel, or Carr.
There are going to be more teams coveting Bridgewater over any other QB...only a handful of teams will rank any of the other QBs ahead of Bridgewater. If you are Cleveland, you absolutely go all in on the QB you think has the best chance to take you to the next level...they have a good defense and solid pieces on offense. If they rank Bridgewater #1...then I dont see why they wouldnt give up their two first rounders (one of which was basically given to them for free) and then a couple extra picks.
Why would the texans even entertain a trade for #1 when they need a franchise qb themselves? I wouldn't care what cleveland offered for that pick because qb is the most important position. Not to mention, luck is in the division and won 11 games again with an avg roster.
uhhh HELLO? what on earth have the texans been doing all these years.... maybe it's just me... but, i do not remember the texans ever having a 'franchise qb'.
Again, not every team has the same draft board. If texans value another qb and the browns are on team Teddy, then a trade is very possible.
you realize the Jags pick #3, correct? it's just too much of a risk. Rick needs to draft the best QB on his draft board 1.1
I'm not saying what Rick should or shouldn't do...I'm saying that a lot can happen and a trade could make sense 5 months from now.
I just hope the Texans don't out think themselves with a trade. I've heard too many stories of teams trading back thinking they were getting over on the rest of the league, only to loose out on the guys they were targeting. It happened to Dallas last year, when they traded back with SF for a 3rd rounder and the guys they were after were gone by the time the pick came up. They ended up taking a guy with a low second round grade. Hope that extra third rounder was worth loosing out on the guys you wanted with 1st round grades, Jerry. If they don't like Teddy, that's one thing. But QB'S are always over-drafted. I can potentially Se a situation like 2012 where Minnesota knew the draft was supposed to be very deep with QB's and they were sure they'd have several of the top QB'S available when their pick came up. Instead, a run on QB'S happened and they ended up way over drafting Christian Ponder in the middle of the first round. Don't try to game the rest of the league. If you trade back, there is a risk that it won't play out like you think. If they are going to draft a QB in the 1st, and Bridgewater has a top of the first round grade in their books, just take the guy. Don't get cute. Imagine they trade back to 15, and end up with someone like Mettenberger as their 1st rounder.
The Browns aren't going to announce what player they are interested in. If the Texans trade down, they risk other teams taking the guy they want. What applies to the Browns applies to the Texans - if the #1 pick is that value to trade up for, then the Texans shouldn't trade it down. Both teams really, really need a franchise QB.
And what if O'Brien comes in and wants to figure out a way to bring in Cutler instead? There are a thousand scenarios that can play out between now and the draft. The most logical approach is to take Teddy at 1-1...but there is still free agency and the draft combine to shake things up. And of course, teams offering trades for #1...everything has a price.
Unless both players grade out to be mediocre, you take Manziel with the 1st pick. When it comes to the franchise QB, you take that QB and not get cute with it. The Texans should not trade down for any reason besides being 200% certain that none of the QBs have reasonable chances to become franchise QBs. If that's the case, I'd rather they just skip over QBs in the first round, suck next year, and try to draft one in 2015.
Sure - that's a different scenario. Your starting point was that the Texans valued a different QB based on having a different draft board - that suggested they are looking for their franchise QB in the draft.
My point with the draft board was that not every team will value Bridgewater as #1...therefore leaving the possibility open for trades. The Texans might not value any of the QBs in the draft, in which case, a trade down would be the best option.
Your point is.... Basically anything can happen. Perhaps the "Bridgewater or Bust" thread is not the appropriate place for that.
