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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. Rocknation

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    i doubt many NBA teams really want BEV. Lin does have that 3rd year balloon payment, but it is an expiring contract that third year. And Maybe if given a chance Lin can play like an All Star. Who Knows?
     
  2. JJHardLin

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    ive been neutral on who should start so far but i really think lin should be te starter now. let him get some chemistry with the starting unit, dwight especially.
     
  3. zipcrash

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    you're right, but you aren't going to get much back for him.

    lin is harder to trade, but you would get more back from him than a bev trade.

    neither should be traded though.

    lins not going to get traded in a league saturated by quality guards.
     
  4. muas2010

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    Agreed. I don't really mine Lin coming off the bench, but just seeing 5 highly capable offensive players in Howard, Jones, Parsons, Hardin, and Lin is just plain nice. The first quarter of the last two games truly showcase the full capability of these 5 players.
     
  5. aesthetics80

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    TS%
    Lin: 64%
    Lillard: 57%
    Kemba 52%

    FG%
    Lin: 50%
    Lillard: 42%
    Kemba: 43%

    Assists:
    Lin: 4.3
    Lillard: 5.8
    Kemba: 4.6

    Usage:
    Lin: 21.5
    Lillard: 25.3
    Kemba: 26.4

    FGA:
    Lin: 9
    Lillard: 16
    Kemba: 16

    Lin is the most efficient of the three by a large margin. He is on par with Walker in assists and Lillard is only slightly above him even though both have a much higher usage rate and don't have to share PG duties like Lin does. Walker and Lillard's scoring numbers and PER are also inflated because they take 7 more shots per game than Lin does. If Lin averaged 16 FGA per game like those 2 he'd be scoring over 20 PPG.
     
  6. Crunchyball

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    couldn't believe it when i saw harden screening for lin.
     
  7. PRaZe

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    Don't be.. They did that a lot of time last season.
     
  8. muas2010

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    Yeah...it's tough for some to understand numbers like that.:)

     
  9. ed_tx

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    J Lin could play SG (like Harden does) with Bev at PG but Lin controls the ball and offense... unless you are implying that Bev isn't playing PG at an NBA leval (things that make you say hmmmmmmm)
     
  10. EnergyGuy

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    But this is a situational lineup, just line Brooks at the 2 or Lin/Bev together.

    Lin is a bit short for defending SGs night in and out.

    What's so hard about playing your best PG 30 to 36 minutes and starting him?

    Frankly, I've heard for allowing a better SG/SF/PF to play off the bench, but never the better PG. A PG sets the table, controls the pace, sets the tone at the start of the game.
     
  11. DOLPHIN2k2

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    LOL, great job breaking it down. Respect!

     
  12. Crunchyball

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    ok i got to say it was a beauty to see lin playing real PG and Harden playing real SG on the 4th today. supporting each other.
     
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    The last 2 games shows what every knowledgeable Rockets fans have been saying all season long. Jeremy Lin is the best PG on the Rockets and you got to start him and let him play starter minutes with no short leash.

    Yesterday against the Spurs, Lin was amazing. Scored well on a few shots but 50% FG and he shut down Tony Parker who is arguably the best PG in the NBA (I think CP3 is the best). Tony Parker who is a finals MVP, all star, all nba, top 10 candidate for league MVP multiple years was shut down by Lin. This shows Lin's worth on Defense.

    Tonight once again shows what knowledgeable fans have been saying. Mike Conley is one of the better PG in the NBA. He is arguably the best defensive PG in the league. Conley can score and is good both sides of the court but Lin shut him down. Conley was only 4-14, 28% FG and Lin guarded him all night long. Lin played 37 minutes, Conley played 38 minutes.

    Also as was said before starters can start off slowly on offense but you don't but them on a short leash and bench them. Lin's defense was pretty amazing all game long except maybe 1 or 2 plays where he gambled for a steal but overall Lin was spectacular on defense. His offense started off slowly but once he warmed up he scored 14 points in the 4th quarter and was a major reason for the come back and win.

    Now if Bev and Brooks were healthy, Lin would never get the chance to redeem himself in the 4th quarter and would ride the pine.

    You play your starters. Harden struggled on offense but came alive on the FT line in the 4th quarter. Parsons struggle the first 8 games but McHale didn't put him on a short leash

    Lin is good and needs the same treatment Parsons gets and to keep playing even if he starts off shooting poorly in the game.
     
  14. platypus

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    Lin had the opportunity to prove that he can be trusted to play through his own indecisions.

    And for his own sake he showed tonight that he can pull him self up and elevate his game to make winning plays. This will definitely increase his confidence and McHale's confidence in him.

    This is what players who are fighting for consistency need to do, hopefully these last two games are the norm for Lin and he can solidify the position. That way when Beverly does come back we can have great depth.
     
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    Calvin Murphy is a HOF point guard who played his whole career with the Rockets. He knows what he is talking about and Lin-haters do not.
     
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    So Jeremy is finally allowed to be the starter without a short leash and in the 2 games he outplayed Parker and Conley. Maybe if Lin was allowed to be the starter from the start of his Rocket career without a short leash you wouldn't be able to name more than 5 PG better than him. Perhaps?
     
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    How about Lin's Defense the last 2 games

    Lin 37 minutes
    Mike Conley 38 minutes, 4-14, 28 FG%


    Lin 34 minutes
    Tony Parker 31 minutes, 3-11, 27 FG%


    Tony Parker and Mike Conley are top 10 starting PGs in the NBA. Parker might be the best (I say CP3 is the best) PG in the league with a finals MVP, all star, all nba, top 10 in the league in MVP race many years.

    I wonder if people will keep saying Lin is a bad defender. He's been at worst an avg defender since he joined the Rockets.
     
  18. zipcrash

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    amount of minutes played takes priority over the labels "off the bench" and "starter".

    i don't see why it's such a big deal if lin comes off the bench just for the beginning of the game, but essentially plays the starter role for the rest of the game.

    with some of you "off the bench" seems like people only want him to play 10-15 minutes.

    this feels similar to people being locked into positions. pg, sg, sf, pf, c. all that traditional stuff needs the be thrown out the window.
     
  19. Crunchyball

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    I have changed my opinion on Lin. I would rather have Lin develop to be a true PG which has potential to score rather than a become a mini Harden. It might not be the instant chemistry of Harden/BEV . But I think this combo has a higher ceiling. And it needs the both of them to trust and buy into it. if not TRADE his arse of Huston.
     
  20. zipcrash

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    id prefer lin to play facilitator and scorer (he's a really good scorer).

    id also prefer to keep lin.
     

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