Console Wars Thread! PS4 vs. Xbox One vs. Wii U Fight!

I dont really care about all the bells and whistles. What i want to know is which system has the better gameplay? For example, nba 2k series played better on the xbox than it did on the ps3 (at least to me). There was something about the "feel" of the movement you could get with xbox that made it a superior game playing experience for me vs ps3. Does this hold true for xbox one? Ive been leaning towards ps4, just cause everyone I know has it but still would like an honest opinion. Thanks.

 

I had both last gen consoles. I liked the ps3 exclusives more so i got the ps4 first. I'll probably end up getting the xbone later when it's cheaper to play its exclusives.

 

You sound like a typical Apple fanboy or Microsoft hater who has no idea how the company is run or just how enormous it is.

No company provides backwards compatibility like Microsoft. Not a single one. If you think Microsoft is going to fail, you haven't walked in to a major business recently.

Here is a video of a guy upgrading to every version of Windows, minus Windows 8 (which he could do, it just wasn't out when the video was made).

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Backwards compatibility WASN'T USED in the previous generation that is why the didn't waste time or money on it. You do realize that consoles and PC companies capture metrics on what you play right? They know exactly how many people played Xbox games on the Xbox 360. After a few months, no one did. Sony decided the same thing.

There is a point in doing it. You can get the multi-tasking. I listen to Xbox Music and play games all of the time on my Xbox One. You're also able to take Skype calls, watch a video on Netflix or use any other app that you can snap (20+ at the moment).

Bill Gates hasn't been involved in Microsoft day to day operations since 2008. His primary focus is the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

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Thanks for being a voice of reason. It is clear the non-technical folks simply just don't get that it isn't possible.

Just Dance 2014 is on EVERY console, including the Xbox One. I know, I own it.

Exactly. Anyone who remembers in 2005 when the Xbox 360 came out, only CERTAIN Xbox games worked on it. After a few months, they abandoned development on it all-together because user metrics showed most people didn't play their old games.

Just an FYI - these episodes were VERY popular internally at Microsoft =D

I'm not sure you're going to get an "honest" opinion, at least not after going through six+pages of what I've seen here thus far.

The Xbox One and PS4 are vastly different in my opinion. The PS4 is a hardcore gaming box, a box by gamers -for gamers. The Xbox One is a gaming box that also has other "bells and whistles" included for entertainment. It can and will run games just as nice as PS4. However, it is also a gaming box and a "set top box." It can also multitask and control your TV.

Both require an online subscription to unleash the full potential, but those subscriptions vary drastically.

Both have cameras, one is included (Xbox) and one is not (PS).

Right now the race is "too close to call" as they are both selling well and their launch game lineups are similar. There aren't "killer exclusives" on either one at launch.

My advice, look at their planned game releases for the next 6-12 months and choose the one with the most games that you want to play.

For me, that is Titanfall in March. I played it at PAX Prime, and it is a console seller - and the first of it's kinda, almost a new genre.

 

Losers! :grin:

 

Feel free to provide some context.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-360-failure-rate-237-ps3-10-wii-27-study/1100-6216691/

The failure rates were due to a flaw in their highly specialized CPU/GPU. It was remedied in 2008. Either way, to this day if you have a console from 2005 that RROD's, you can get a free replacement. 8+ year warranty isn't the end of the world.

The difference now? The PS4 and Xbox One use off the shelf PC parts, so failure rates for both are going to be in in single digits (like PCs).

 

The xbox was a POS and the PS3 wasn't. As a consumer, xbox lost my trust.

The failures were cooling, optical drives and power supply. Nothing more off the shelf now then there was last generation with regard to those. The difference this time will be both companies got burned on heat and will certainly be extra cautious on cooling.

 

I had a 360 gnat suffered RROD. It wasn't too difficult to get MS to fix it. It did concern me in terms of getting a launch Xbone tho. The last thing I wanted was another console that cooked itself.

The Xbone runs silent. You don't hear the fan at all. I've read that MS basically went over the top with the cooling for the Xbone to avoid a similar RROD disaster. That was reassuring, especially as it gets bloody hot where I live.

 

I'll miss Halo, but it isn't Halo anymore. Halo4's campaign was great...multiplayer was garbage. Destiny...

Also...I bought 4 Xboxes, several of which were RRoD failures, another which was microsoft's own beta patch which they refused to provide assistance with.
Know how many Nintendos or Segas I've had to buy? 1 of each. **** that noise, never again.

 

My PS2 and PS3 (from Aug 2007) still work. Only products made by Sony worth a crap.

 

It was cooling on their choice of CPU/GPU chipsets that hadn't ever been mass produced before. The 90nm CPU/GPU in the 2005 models produced far more heat than they realized. This was a quality control failure for sure. But now, Microsoft also builds other hardware and has produced tens of millions of devices since the original launch of the Xbox 360. Including the Zune, Zune HD, Surface, and countless improved Xboxes. All of which are and have been top notch build quality. Lesson learned, I'd say.

Note that the CPU and GPU now in both systems are basically off the shelf. They both use an 8-core Jaguar CPU that are only slightly customized. And as far as the GPU is concerned the Xbox One has basically what you'd find in a Radeon HD 7790, while the PS4 basically a Radeon HD 7870.

Being that these are PC parts that have been tested and run on tens of thousands of machines worldwide, they have a better understanding of what is needed to maintain proper cooling in the long-term. But as you say, even so they both went above and beyond in the cooling department according to the tear downs.

These are also 28nm chipsets, which itself will greatly reduce the heat produced. Especially when compared with the original Xbox 360 90nm. They've come a long way in the hardware department.

 

Not sure why you are talking to much about micro architecture still and 90 nm manufacturing process. The problem was management and the compromises they made. Probably a lack of understanding the actual life of a console as well.

I don't think there is any way to say because this generation uses a more common processor it will be more reliable. A PC graphics card or a server CPU lives in a completely different environment than a tiny console under someones TV. This generation will likely be more reliable because they were shooting for the moon last generation and rushing to get them on the market.

 

The gaming media is pretty horrible when it comes to stuff like this. I don't know what sites/articles you read, but it would not surprise me that some put out junk like that. These same people were claiming that 1080p looked exactly the same as 720p, totally unaware of that fact that their setup was using 720p for both platforms (so no wonder they looked the same!).

Of course, a lot of people don't even know the technical differences between the PS3 and 360. When they can't even get that right, I wouldn't expect them to be able to accurately compare this genration to that generation.

"Well, the PS3 was SO MUCH more powerful than the 360, but we see what happened there."

Perhaps your point is that MS did a lot more to improve the 360's software (that's debatable, but sure, I won't disagree), but today's PS3 is VASTLY different from the one that was launched in 2006. In comparison, the 2006 PS3 was a pretty big piece of crap.


"So what you're saying is nothing changed?"

It is actually looking like the Ouya will have the best gameplay.

"HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!"

 

What changed in terms of the ps3's software? Still has the same clunky crossbar. The ps4s user interface is much much nicer.

 

At launch, it couldn't scale anything properly. The original PS store was an html app, which was changed to a fancier native app...and I think it was changed back to a (fancier) HTML app. Support for all the various apps (Youtube, Netflix, Amazon, etc.). IIRC, they changed the patching process (don't need to download a huge update every time...though I might be remembering wrong about that). Trophies. Background downloading. DLNA. In-game XMB.

Lots more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_system_software

The basic UI is the same (with some polish), but I don't really have a problem with that. If that's what you mean, then sure, the PS3 is exactly the same as the one that launched in 2006.

 

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lol xbox720p is getting owned by the ps4 in sales

 

Without knowing what Sony and MS are shipping, we don't really know what the sales are like (as he points out). Sony could have just shipped a lot fewer systems to the US (keep in mind they're trying to get these systems out to something like 50 countries). Or maybe not, and it is selling that much better.

Early numbers from Europe certainly don't look good for MS though.

 

How old are you, 5? Who cares about sales - both xbox one and ps4 have sold 2+ million.

You act as if your parents helped develop the PS4.

Stop being attached to a piece of plastic.

 

If he was a true Sony fan he wouldn't have sold his PS3 and 100 games when he create a thread awhile back.

 

i never sold them