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The Many Weapons of Chandler Parsons

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. dje243

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    Your bias is subtle.
     
  2. FTW

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    Chanler's layup is sexy. he should have a fun time playing with Scola.
     
  3. quatin

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    I think he means isolation plays. Parsons is good when he gets a pass from the triple threat position or gets a PnR play, but he can't create from his dribble 1v1. It's not all that important in team basketball, but it keeps him out of the star guard discussions. Everyone expects a star guard to be able to dribble up the court, run down the clock and make a game winning shot.

    I missed the last 3 games, so maybe things have changed.
     
  4. Old Man Rock

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    Let's not get nasty. I am fan of Chandler. But he is not more valuable than Howard and Harden that's all I'm saying. If you think Parson's is better than Howard and Harden then go ahead and say it. I disagree and would trade parsons for Harden or Howard in a New York Minute and I don't even like Harden that much.

    I am not a big fan of Harden. I think he ball hogs too much and whines too much and b itches at his teammates for small **** while he makes big mistakes. But harden is playing injured a lot this year and that is contributing too his poor play. (Yes Parsons has too and has a let down as well albeit lss) When harden plays his A game it is head shoulders better than Parsons A game. The same goes for Howard.

    I like Parsons but he is an opportunistic scorer. He is great at it but he doesn't drive the lane and score at will like Harden and Lin. (I am not saying Lin is better than Parsons so don't start screaming LOFs) He isn't a low post player like Howard and he is not a pure shooter albeit he has improved.

    The biggest reason the Rockets miss Parsons when he is hurt or on the bench is because the drop off to Garcia is huge. The other night when Casspi was moved to the 3 out of necessity the drop off wasn't as bad.

    If you disagree I won't argue with you anymore. I am happy Parsons is a Rocket. It just gets old hearing Worrell keep saying he is the glue. Yes he is valuable but we could have drafted Kawhi Leonard instead of Morris and if we have Parsons could be expendable. If we could trade Asik and Parsons for LMA I would do it in a second. I would include him in almost any trade that upgraded the PF or PG spot with an All Star.

    I like Parsons, He and Lin are 2 of my favorites but unlike some I would trade either if it upgraded the team. I do not confuse his on court value with his personality. Parsons character >>>>>>> greater than harden. Parsons basketball talent < not greater than Harden. That's all I am saying.
     
  5. DarkRock

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    I 100% agree with you. From Howard/Harden, Lin/Parsons and all the way to Casspi and Garcia. You are telling it as it is.
     
  6. crash5179

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    How do you know when he hasn't played a second this season?
     
  7. jtr

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    Parsons can sometimes create his own shot when his 3 point stroke is singing. He is quick enough to get around many small forwards in the NBA. But he is certainly no Harden. Never will be. But I love the confidence he is showing on the floor.
     
  8. crash5179

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    Last second shot by Chandler. Not the greatest shot of all time but I love the choreography to this one play. It kind of makes it feel.... epic!

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xibtYZpci-k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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  9. amazingskills

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    I am sure if he ever tried he would be as good at that shot as Harden...
     
  10. crash5179

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    I don' know what games you are watching but Chandler regularly takes his man off of the dribble and penetrates the paint for a contested lay-up.

    I'm not sure how much better of a shooter you want Chandler to be or what your criteria is for greatness as a shooter but what I can tell you as a fact is that Chandler is shooting the 3 ball as much and with as much accuracy as KD and more than Melo. I'm not saying he is in KD's league because he is not but honestly I'm trying to figure out how you are negatively judging him as a shooter?

    Is Chandler an opportunistic scorer? How exactly do you define that? It's not like he is just in the right place at the right time where he can take an uncontested dunk under the goal. As I stated earlier, Chandler is regularly taking his man off of the dribble driving into the paint. Did you watch the video in the OP? None of those were a product of him just being in the right place at the right time and taking advantage of a situation.

    As far as trading Chandler goes...if it makes the team better then I'm all for it. But IMO it would take a lot in exchange for Chandler to make the team better.
     
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  11. Mr. Dominant

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    I love Parsons abilities to fluidly change hands with the ball in mid air. It's so easy for him.
     
  12. FoOLiSh_AzN

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    He sure is good.
     
  13. quatin

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    I have a hard time believing that. He doesn't have a quick first step, a killer cross over, quick footwork or just pure strength to drive through people. Parsons relies on getting his opponent out of position via pump fakes or picks. I saw him use the step back jumper a couple times this year, which looks good ok, but he doesn't get consistent separation.

    I'm not trying to make a bashing post on Parsons. His strengths are open shots, cutting through lanes and executing off the triple threat spot, all of which he does well. We don't even need him to play iso ball if everyone on the team can do what he does. It's not to say he won't develop an iso game either, he learned the euro step from James this year.
     
  14. Deckard

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    "He is the kind of role player that championship teams need but you don't build a championship team around him."

    Chandler Parsons is also the kind of player you need to win a championship. I would never say he's a "superstar" caliber player, and it will surprise me if he ever makes the All Star team, unless he continues his remarkable season to season improvement, which shows no sign of stopping, or if he gets in as an injury replacement, both possibilities. What Chandler is is that glue guy who's a leader on the court, and does whatever it takes to win games, even playing 40 minutes with a sore back that would probably have most of us in bed taking Vicoden. Do some people "overrate" him? Yes. Do some people underrate him? Yes, and you are one of them, with all due respect.
     
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  15. Spyckie

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    Chandler has a very unique bball IQ that I've rarely seen, it's the ability to read and react very quickly in any type of shuffle or unset defensive situation.

    Any time the defense is not perfect, there is an imbalance that you can abuse. If the opponent is caught flat footed, too far away, shifted to one side or the other, etc, even if you're not as athletic you can take advantage of that and beat them to 'create a shot'.

    Chandler abuses this type of situation better than almost anyone I've seen. He creates mostly off of screens, great spacing and transition type situations. I don't think he is good enough athletically to create a shot purely on his speed, size or strength. All of his shots are tricky, designed to catch a person off guard.

    He shines when he receives the ball off of a cut, screen, roll, or just during a set. These types of situations often yield defensive imbalances which he is able to utilize. However, if you give him the ball when the defense is set, he is no better than the league average.

    We traditionally think of all-stars as people who can create for themselves, give other teams trouble and force them to focus their D on them, opening up opportunities for other players. I don't think Chandler fits this role. He is definitely a complementary player.

    That said, he might not be an all-star according to the above definition, but he is still really good.
     
  16. alethios

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    I don't have the stats to back it up, but I'm certain the Rockets winning percentage was higher with him playing than when he was out. He may not be a star but he does impact the game and is crucial to the Rockets' success. I wish he could develop a better go-to move, a pull-up jumper or turn-around jumper especially in the post.
     
  17. crash5179

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    With a little over 7 minutes left in the half former Mavs and Knicks point guard and current Mavs announcer Derrick Harper guarantees Chandler will be an all-star at some point in his career.
     
  18. EnergyGuy

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    He's also pump faking less than at season start
     
  19. cerophilik

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    U forgot his turn overs. And drives into the lane and loose the ball
    And one more he likes to come off and help and his man gets an open 3 or lay up
    No defense this season from Parsons.
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    He makes his mistakes but are you dumb? He converts on his plays more than losing the ball, its expected when he does all those things for the team. gtfo.
     

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