Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Agreed. Someone mentioned that, when Bev plays against PG focused teams, he does a little and is more effective with his 'defense.' But when he plays teams where the PG isnt their primary scorer or offense, Bev does not contribute much since his scoring is not strong enough to carry through. Pacers, Heat both don't have a PG that is awesome or is relied upon to do well. Bev might be better in certain matchups which I can agree on.

Couldn't Bev just start, but Lin plays more mins in both the First and Second units so that like someone said, he bridges and spends time making both units better (at least in scoring). I believe Lin was playing a few more min than Bev already when they were both playing together. Man I can't even remember anymore lol it has been so long since Lin played. PLus wiht McHale out a few matches too.

 

it's simple, Lin averaged

13/6 playing off the ball, coming off an season ending injury last yr, and his first season starting in the NBA (almost rookie)

15/7 could've been his stats easy last year if he handled the ball just a lil more, not even having to be the teams primary ball handler, just not being a spot up shooter.

17/7 this year can be his numbers this, because Howard can catch the passes that asik couldn't & his offensive game has improved which would makes his ppg game go up. But he was already averaging 17 this season.

morey knows this, he doesn't have to look at his advanced stats & all that to figure this out, he had other business plans with this team going into this year which I understand, but like I said before in this thread, if Lin is not traded & finishes his contract here this season he will be back in the starting line up at some point during this 2013-2014 season.

 

Agreed this team needs someone else to step up and right the ship when things start going south for Harden like last night. Unfortunately Bev isn't that guy and quite frankly either is Lin.
For now Parsons is the only wing player I have seen consistently show that resolve. He needs to start taking more accountability to change the look in those situations

 

Ever since Harden was signed, Lin was no longer in Morey's future plan. Therefore, they are trying to develop Beverley and getting him into the mix of the team chemistry. Lin will be out after his contract is over or traded. Book it.

 

You don't start a pg for defense period, for a center, wing or pf that's understandable, it's never been a PGs job to be elite on defense.

 

tell that to mchale lol

 

how can you say that when last season lin always managed to split performances against the elite pgs. 2/3 great performances against curry. 2/4 great performances against parker. showed up uncle drew, uncle drew injured in second match up, 2 brilliant games vs dwill.

I thought for his first season as a starter and having to adjust to a new role, he did what a first year starter would do and this year improved.

If bev ever gets 31 with winning shots you will never hear the end of it. when lin does it, y u no score 32? trade him.

 

Beverley isn't the problem on this team. Neither is Lin. Nor Harden.

The problem is McHale.

 

Not only Lin would be cruified, but any other PG in the NBA would. Felton is now injured, but the Knicks and the Knick fans don't want him. His numbers are equal or better than Bev's. Wake up Rockets.

 

Again, your entire post is about attacking bev and as i have stated before and others have stated... This is not about Lin vs bev, as much as you want it to be.. It's not..

Any player that's on the court at the point.... Bev, Lin or Brooks do the same thing... The ball is passed into them and as soon as they pass half court they either:

A) Pass the ball directly to Harden
B) Pass the ball to the trailing man who then will pass it to Harden

Harden will play around for 8 to 10 secs.. Pass the ball... The ball comes back to him and play around with the ball until the shot clock is at 3 secs and either drive or pass for someone to take a rush shot (Man this is like Deja Vu)..

Now does he do this all the time NO... But with this system, no pg on this team will have a decent assist rate... NO PG.. NOT JUST BEV!!!

So no matter how many people on this board keep saying the saying thing that is not about the pg or Lin vs Bev, you keep going in that direction....

T_Man

 

Maybe Damien just had a bad day

 

Why not Philly did it with Mo Cheeks.... Denver did with Fat lever... and there have been others.

So your statement is not true...

T_Man

 

Beverley avg 2.3 APG this season---he plays w/ Howard, Harden & Parsons...Jennings will torch him tonight

 

See if others stated this or wish this upon Lin you would be posting like crazy...

Statements like this is where all the hate and separation on this board comes from.

T_Man

 

T_Man I agree and disagree with your points and agree with Torocan. Speaking of Cheeks, the Pistons won't be a pushover. They beat the Pacers.

There are two Hardens. One that does precisely what you say and another that will pass the ball and not stop it so much and only have a few ISOs. I really don't know which one will show up, but when the one that doesn't stop the ball shows up, the team plays a more fluid brand of basketball. Still, there's inadequate ball movement. Lin does make a difference if and when Harden sees him just like Parsons/Howard make a difference when Harden sees them.

 

Lin's out of the plans, I agree, but not FOR Beverely. I think Canaan next year will be our backup, and the year after, our starter.

 

I agree. Also predicting stuff is stupid. Bev could score 20 tonight and Jennings 10 or the other way round. Who knows? What we should want is Bev to have an effective game but more than that, for the whole Rockets team to play well, including the bench.

 

EXACTLY!!!!

This is a team game win or lose...

T_Man

 

I agree

But Mo Cheeks is retired and coaching now... So I have no idea of who you are speaking about...

T_Man

 

I don't agree. Canaan may be the new Machado. Some guys keep talking about the next wonder PG and you have a PG in Lin that can play and a strong, scrappy, hustle defensive player in Beverley. Maybe Morey is happy with Lin's production, how do you know if he is or not? McHale may sincerely believe that using Lin as is is best for the team. Because he doesn't develop Lin in the way some of us think doesn't mean that Lin isn't in the plans. It's possible starting Lin off the bench is McHale's way of staggering Lin and Harden's minutes and also, the bench does need someone like Lin to playmake.