Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Most importantly the Rockets have 9 losses. The Mavs as the 8th seed has 10 losses. The Rockets with the addition of the best center in the game should be an elite team competing with the Thunder, Blazers, Spurs, Pacers, Heat for the best record in the NBA but we are stuck in mediocrity.

Could it be because we are starting the worst starting PG in the league with a pathetic PER and a D that is so over-rated it's not even funny where there is a long list of games he gets completely owned.

I don't know maybe that is why Rockets fans discuss the this topic.

All 29 NBA teams' fan base would be in arms if Bev was starting for their team as a rookie when there is 2 PGs on the team who are better and more experienced in the NBA

 

Yes- that is a big reason. I hate saying it so much on this board b/c I love Bev- but he's just not meant to be a starter at this stage.

 

The Rockets lost several games to the worst teams in the NBA. And this team is stacked.

When Brooks who had avg 20 ppg, still in his 20s and was a MIP doesn't see PT because he is the 3rd string PG when everyone is healthy is a joke when the 1st string guy is a rookie who is so bad on offense and his D is inconsistent.

If there wasn't hatred against Lin and the backup was a PG who is comparable to Lin the entire forum would be calling for the coaching staff's head for starting the rookie pg

 

It's always entertaining to get a glimpse into the alternate reality some of Lin's fans live in.

 

Pat Bev is wayyyyyyyyyy more valuable to this team than LIN. Every championship team needs mop up player. Bev rebounds and plays D (inconsistent) at times, he makes smart plays and handles the rock pretty well when in his hands. Lin on the other hand, will prolly get traded come deadline or maybe even tomorrow, that is because the franchise knows it, and most of us know it that he just isnt that important to the success of this team. He is just a ordinary that has a big brand and a large population overseas following him, that is ALL.

 

Lol @ all the Bev and Lin bashing. Way to support your team "Rockets fans"!

 

I'm a Lin fan and I think he should be the starter.

With that being said I don't know how any Rockets fan can't like Beverley. He may not be the most skilled player on the team, but he goes out and bust his ass every night. I wish all of the Rocket players played with his intensity.

 

one of the reasons he starting.. he brings intensity with the starters

 

At this point, the doubters who put ceilings on Lin will be right. Until something changes, they won't eat their words. But Lin has made people eat their words before. Ultimately, if he's unleashed, he'll shut the doubters up like he throughout his playing career. Lin needs to improve a lot of his game, and he will. The doubters will doubt and talk in absolutes. Nobody knows Lin's ceiling but the doubters get really annoyed when people bring up stats Lin may be capable of and has accomplished in short samples, yes, but has accomplished already.

 

Why can't the coaching staff just start Lin for a few games and see how it works?

Why can't the coaching staff just start Lin for a few games and see how it works?

I admit it. i am a huge Lin fan and would love to see him play starter/starter minutes.

Obviously with the huge off-season the Rockets have had, dynamics within the starting line-up have changed. (insertion of DH and TJ)

Even Hakeem has raved about the DH-Jlin combination as 'very deadly', it would seem that he too, have thought that Lin would be the starter coming into the season.

So why can't Lin start for perhaps a few consecutive games? He has played well games earlier in the season when Bev was out with an injury.

If he dosen't fit, fine. At least it will prove he can't thrive with this new line-up and the furore regarding the PG position will finally end.

If he fits, then LOH and ABJ fans faint. I'm kidding. Then Rockets would have stepped their game up to another level and perhaps even maximise their roster potential.

GO ROX!

 

Idiot LOF's never get it.

Bev starts because he is a better fit with the starting unit. Harden's and Lin's skills overlap too much and Harden is the far superior player. You are not making good use of Lin by having hims tart alongside Harden. There are only so many shots to go around. Harden and howard are our two top guys. Bev doesn't need the ball to be effective, Lin does.

We have no issue scoring in the starting unit. Harden, Parsons and Howard can all go off on any given night. issue is defense. Bev is a better defender than Lin, another reason why Bev starts. Bev plays with more hustle and intensity and you need that when you have the likes of Howard and Harden coasting at times.

So in conclusion, Lin is a better overall player than Bev all things considered but Bev is the better fit with the first unit.

 

Can you provide some stats to validate what you are saying? Mindful that you can't just take the number for this season thus far since Lin started a number of games while Bev was out.

Can someone do a comparison of the team's stat with Lin starting vs Bev starting?

From my "eye test", I think the team does better when Lin is starting.

 

Did you watch last years playoffs?

 

Yeah, I saw how Bev was burned by 2 backup pgs despite his awesome defense. What did you see?

 

I'm not even bashing Beverly when I suggested he shouldn't be starting. He should still get playing time, but more off the bench. Last year, Bev had his highest PER and defensive rating among our PGs playing in the 2nd unit. That made it an easy choice to put him at the start to see if he could maintain it. However, there was concerns that he would not be able to maintain his hyper-active style for longer durations against starting units. This year his PER has dropped off a cliff. Even his defensive rating has regressed. If you want to view this objectively, Beverly is a much better player off the bench. He got 20 minutes per game last year and did spectacularly.


It's a little difficult sorting through all the troll responses and trying to discuss the situation with rational people. The only thing the trolls focus on is Lin this and Lin that. The biggest issue here is AB needs playing time! I'm not even saying he needs to start, but with his recent performance, he deserves some burn time.

 

Did you????

 

this. all very true plus Lin provides the offense for the 2nd unit. some of the noise died down a bit when this arrangement proved its benefits and Lin was doing exceptionally well also even while coming off the bench. i think the clamor for him to start gained some force again when he had so so games after returning from injury.

i thnk it's 2 things -

1. coming back from injury, players might have to shake a little rust off. might take a few games to fully accomplish that. remember when bev came back early from his injury, he couldn't hit the side of the barn, had an awful FG% his first 5-6 games back but he has gotten his groove lately.

2. both games were coached by kelvin sampson who had a different rotation. sampson pulled bev, put in lin, but had harden stay on the floor with lin far longer than mchale did when lin was having success with the 2nd unit before without harden. this had a huge impact on lin unable to get into his own groove.

conclusion is: when things settle down, everything should revert to what it once was, bev starting, lin doing well with the 2nd unit, LOFs happier

 

Certainly did. Westbrook tore Lin a new one in Game 1. The series did not turn around until Beverley became the starter.

 

Fixed.

 

Beverly upped the defensive intensity and WB could not take it