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Either start Lin, or bring in a new starting PG, Bev ain't cuttin' it.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OldfanofTmac, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I am not angry. If I was, you would easily be able to tell. I just don't try to waste time sugar coating my words to appeal to idiots who choose to worship mediocre players. Like I said, could Lin possibly turn into a star? Sure, anything is possible, however unlikely. I would love nothing more for him to prove me wrong while in a Rockets jersey as that only helps the Rockets, but I am not going to bend over backwards pretending I see something I don't in him.
     
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    Were Marcus Camby to be on this team, he likewise would be referred to as "leader". But that doesn't mean he should start.
     
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    Bev is a lot like Tony Allen, no offense should be ran through him ( he's not a good distributor) his presence is best used on the defense and scrapping for the ball.
     
  4. langal

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    Bev is the greatest fit for this team. Wouldn't sit him for anyone. I am smart because of my join date.
     
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    To further elaborate....

    If someone said there is nothing to suggest Garcia, Beverly, or Patrick Patterson could become a star, I'd nod in agreement.

    No doubt, many players in the NBA... in fact most players in the NBA have nothing to suggest that they could become a star. This statement can be made accurately for many and most players.

    But for Jeremy Lin, such a statement is being out of touch with reality. His skills are way too diverse and for at least one of them elite to make this assessment.

    I even highly doubt that Stephen A Smith would say nothing suggests that Jeremy Lin can become a star, at this point.
     
  6. chenjy9

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    So dropping 30+ pts in 2 consecutive games means someone has star potential now? :roll eyes: Luther Head had a stretch where he scored 18, 18, 21, and 30 points, which I consider better than 2 games of 30+. Are we going to ordain him with star potential? Walt Williams came close at 25 for consecutive games, do you see anyone running screaming he is going to be the next big things? People who can score will go off at times. What makes someone a star potential is how consistent they are in their production. Lin is not consistent and has never shown he could be yet.
     
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    There. You said you don't see it. It doesn't mean that you're right or even if it shines bright that you will. But you say with some false authority that it won't happen. That's what's turning me off. If you don't see it, that's you. Doesn't mean it will or won't happen in the future. And people can make good arguments either way that it may or may not.
     
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    Harden right now doesn't compare to Kobe of 4-5 years ago. Gasol was one of if not the most skilled big men and Bynum even at that time was a top 3 center. Them combined is greater than Dwight. Ariza/Artest provided defensive intensity and some scoring as well. The Lakers also had one of the greatest coaches of all time and more depth as well as more veterans. In that team, Fisher fit perfectly because of his defense, his clutch play, and his experience. But this team doesn't compare to that team.

    When you have a young and building team you play your best guys so they can grow together. Even if Lin's gone at the end of his contract you start him so that he can grow with the team and at least make a push while he's here
     
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    Odd you say Lin isn't consistent. Prior to getting injured this season he has been very consistent. Perfectly consistent? No. But, the vast majority of the games he played he did very well. He's shown he's much more consistent than the first half of last season. So this notion that he's not consistent seems make believe to me.
     
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    dont forget the 12 assists
     
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    He's shown consistency most of this season. His numbers now are skewed by his injury in the game where he played 4 minutes and in the game last night. Everybody has up and down games and doesn't look as great or as bad as their best or worst games. But Lin has played on a consistent level this season and very well.
     
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    Easy, not upset. Yes, Lin had high usage during Linsanity, and my point is that his high usage dropped when Melo came back and when he started playing with Harden. He put up Linsanity numbers when Harden was out due to injury.

    My point is that when he's been allowed the same usage rate as Harden, he puts up big numbers.
     
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    So what is your definition of " star potential"? being #1 TO in the league? No Def. and All Offense? Volume shooter with .3% FG? :rolleyes:
     
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    Well said. People can make arguments either way that it may or may not happen. But they can't, for example, make good arguments that it will happen for Garcia, or Beverly. That would be grasping at straws. Lin's on another level and that's why pondering whether he could or couldn't become a star isn't outlandish as some may want to believe.
     
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    I could care less about Lin.

    The question for me as a Rocket fan is...should a point guard who average only 2 assists in 40 minutes, who bogs down the offense and which lays heavy offensive burden on the "stars", who shoots only 38% from the field, and 33% from three...be allowed to start, or, even be on the team?

    Why not Brooks???
     
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    Offense IS NOT this teams problem.
    They are at the top of the league.

    Getting stops at crucial times of the game is.
    Beverley is essential in that area.
     
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    Then what happened last night? Rockets were able to beat the Blazers with Lin and Asik. So Asik was more valuable last night than Bev was. We really don't need Bev because we have Lin. But we do need Asik.
     
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    This is the sort of half brain reasoning that has become rampant around here that is so damn frustrating.

    Absolute indisputable "facts" drawn from 1 game. Awesome.
     
  19. joe101

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    I think the "idiots" were asking you to bend forward.:grin:
     
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    If we lose our Christmas day game to the Spurs with Lin playing, will you conclude that we don't need him (since we beat them once without him)?
     

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