lol its not blown out of proportion at all. Spurs were one rebound away from winning and should have gotten that rebound if duncan was left in the game. Yesterday showed that if lebron doesn't have a great game then the heat are in trouble. paul george played pretty bad too and they still won by 8
I would be tempted to do it. It's a pretty good offer. Atlanta probably won't go for it. Horford wants to move to the 4,and Asik can help him out. What is Horford's contract duration like?
Not when I've watched them play. Granted, I don't follow the Sixers closely (maybe you do and can refute this), but I've never seen Turner play well off the ball. College or pros. With his high skill level he's always come across as a player that needs the ball in his hands to be most effective. As for his shooting, if you look at his percentages across the board, they definitely have not improved. Whether it's 3-9/10-15/16-23 or at the rim. They've all gotten worse. That said, he's getting to the line a lot more frequently which offsets a lot of that. But don't confuse his hot shooting in the month of December (5 game sample size) as some sort of turning point.
I do watch the Sixers play regularly and before this season I would have agreed with you, especially when he was being coached by Doug Collins. This year however, he has been more effective off the ball, getting open shots off of MCW's play-making and has developed a nice two-man game with Spencer Hawes playing in the post. He still handles the ball a lot since he's basically the backup point guard. As for his shooting, his fg% has improved this year, mainly because he's taking better shots and getting to the line. Under Collins, he shot a stupid amount of long 2's, everyone on the team did. Now, he mainly attacks the rim and gets his points 15 feet in and at the line. But, his shooting form has improved as well. When he first came into the league, his off hand would cover the top of the ball rather than rest on the side, screwing up his jumpshot and making it inconsistent. Last year, he changed his form with his off hand more on the side and behind the ball. Yes, he's not a knock down shoote, but he's shown the ability to improve and shooting is a skill that can be continually improved upon throughout one's career. I guess my point was, Martin's deficiencies (defense, durability) are pretty much set, whereas Turner's (shooting, playing off the ball) can be corrected and are things he's been improving/working on.
Ditto. A Horford-Howard combination would have all the benefits of the Twin Towers with less of the drawbacks. I doubt it happens though.
Sure they probably make the playoffs .... One and Done. The only reason I could see them making that deal is if they decide to get off the treadmill and rebuild using Horford to gather assets to that end.
Regarding Evan Turner: advanced stats are unimpressed by Turner and his counting stats. There is probably a sucker out there for Turner but it will not be the extremely well-managed Rockets. No point in any more Evan Turner talk. Spencer Hawes is a different story. Hawes is probably Daryl Morey's backup plan if he can't trade Omer Asik for a first rounder-expiring contract package. Hawes can play alongside either Dwight Howard or Terrence Jones. If Philly's lowball offer (Asik for Hawes, straight up) is accepted, look for Philly to shop Asik at the February trade deadline. Philly will want the same return package that Houston wants and there may be more Omer suitors in February than there are right now.
Now that's pretty interesting. Hard to gauge where Atlanta feels they are in their timeline. Yeah they're a playoff team in the East but there's no way they're making it to the finals. To me this is why Jones gets moved. He's the piece you can combine with Asik and maybe Lin to get that third star. All of those scenarios we were throwing around in the offseason it seemed evident Parsons would have to be included to get a true third star. Now Jones takes Parsons place. In short you do this deal Jones is great but Horford is better. We are in win now mode so make the move.
The way I see it I feel like we could be the Indiana of the West if we got Horford. Bev=Hill Harden=PG Parsons=Stephenson Horford=West Howard=Hibbert except we are an offensive team instead of defense, and probably have a better bench then them with Lin leading the second unit. if it was just Asik+Jones and I guess a sweetner of either DMO+Covington+Cannan or even a second rounder from us I would do it.
Asik+Ronnie Brewer to Milwaukee for Giannis Antetokounmpo, Zaza Pachulia, & Lottery Protected 1st rounder Asik+Ronnie Brewer to Boston for Jeff Green & Kelly Olynyk Asik to Philly for Thaddeus Young, NO 1st rounder Focus is on a backup 3 that can play defense and slide into a stretch 4 for 10-12 minutes a game. While I'm sure Morey wouldn't be wild about Young or Green's player options in 2015, if you are going to trade for superstar (like Love/Aldridge) you need fairly large contracts to make it work. If you never find a deal for that third superstar, they + Lin make for a very potent 2nd unit and are part of the core 8-9 guys you go to war with in the playoffs. Lin backing up 1/2 and Young/Green/Alphabet backing up 3/4. Would need to find a backup C in the Philly trade unless we really like Greg Smith/DMo protecting the rim....
Think what you want, but no one else in Miami thinks the team is desperate for a big man by giving up a big 3. Even if Bosh was on the table, Howard would need to be on the other end. Asik + Lin as an offer is a joke. Lin would be 3rd string at Miam. Lebron and Wade are both ball dominant guards. Chalmers is a better spot up shooter than Lin, so he's going to start. Cole is the high energy spark off the bench. If Lin gets benched for Beverly in Houston, then he's getting benched behind Cole at Miami. Even if you move Lin over to SG, he's not getting ahead of Ray Allen and Dwayne Wade in the rotation. Miami vs the Pacers yesterday showed exactly what I said. When the 3 ball isn't falling (19%), Bosh can't draw Hibbert out of the paint with his shooting(0 for 3 on 3s) and Miami gets out rebounded (43 to 33), then a big man is sorely needed. However, this loss in the regular season doesn't matter much, because Oden will be there in the play offs. All Miami needs is to make it to the finals, where they'll most likely meet the Spurs, Clippers or OKC. Neither of which can pose a big size advantage. (Spurs only out rebounded Miami by 1 the entire 7 game series last year)
Completely Random Trade Idea There are two possible trade scenarios that are both possible and intriguing, albeit not likely. 1) Omer Asik, Aaron Brooks, + additional contract for Luol Deng. The Bulls need a point guard and Deng has an expiring contract. However, with Noah already established in Chicago, Asik would basically be in the same position there as he is here. It could work trading Lin + Brewer for Deng, but I doubt the Rockets would part with Lin without getting a legitimate all-star/almost star in return. Deng would provide valuable defense off the bench or even starting, but Lin's production off the bench would be sorely missed. 2) Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin for Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo would fit great with Houston as he does not require the ball in his hands to be effective. He has also shown a willingness to perform in this fashion as can be evidenced by his stint with the Olympic team. Lin's production off the bench would definitely be missed and the back-up 5 would be lacking, but with Carmelo starting Jones could come off the bench and play as the backup 5 in certain situations. Greg Smith would need to step it up big time. The trade makes some sense for the Knicks as Carmelo is widely expected to opt out of his contract at the end of this year and it is fairly obvious that the Knicks are not contenders this year. The same problem exists in NY with Asik as it does in Chicago and Houston, as Chandler is established and in my opinion, more valuable than Asik. NY could always flip Asik for picks, or a third team being involved such as the Celtics. The Knicks have of course been interested in Rondo, so it is at least possible that a trade between the Rockets, Knicks, and Celtics could happen. The Rockets would likely need to add D-Mo or Jones + picks to sweeten the deal and I doubt the Rockets would be willing to give up that much just for Carmelo to jump ship. But remember how much Houston was willing to gamble on Dwight a year ago when they tried to trade with Orlando for him. Also remember that Lin's contract is expiring in another year as well and I would be surprised if Morey didn't trade him sometime before then anyways. Three team trade that works: Rockets get: Carmelo Anthony Knicks get: Rajon Rondo, Kris Humphries (large expiring contract for money matching) (could also send shumpert to Boston and get someone of middling value back) Celtics get: Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, plus extras I'm not saying that any of these trades are likely, just that they are at least possible with money and all. I'm not even saying they make a ton of sense for the teams involved as it is very possible that the Knicks make the playoffs this year as the East is weak. They have no shot at a title of course, but making the playoffs, sure.
No, it wouldn't. Melo is leaving them for nothing anyways. If the Knicks could pull of Melo for Rondo that would be a home run for them.
