To be fair, Lin only shot 33% from 3 pt range for like one month His season avg. was around 33-34% because he had a TERRIBLE start and a GREAT finish. So in the first few months, he was shooting like 26% from 3 pt range. I imagine anyone, even gene18, would have been crying then. In fact, Lin's whole body of work then was pretty abysmal. But after he healed up/got used to the team/whatever, after the all star break, Lin exploded from behind the arc to post 42.4% in Feb., 40% in March and 36% in April. So by then, I imagine gene18 found it very acceptable haha.
But Lin wasn't exactly shooting 33% from 3 last year. He started out way under that, and ended well over that. I don't think he ever really spent any real time in the middle ground.
Well yes, that's what an average is. LOL. Beverley's 3 pt percentage has ranged from the 20s to 75 so far this season. He is being criticized on the average, as he should be.
People have always been doubting Lin. During college, the D-league, Knicks and now the Rockets. It's literally the story of his life. Even if he's successful, lots of critics still want him to prove himself, because they refuse to believe what they're seeing.
What he's leaving out is Lin was recovering from knee surgery. The first 41 games he shot 28.8%, the last 41 games he shot 38.6%. You can't just take the average when you know a guy is recovering from knee surgery. However, I do think Bev deserves the benefit of the doubt on his shooting% with the rib muscle tear.
No, I think he knows what an average is. The response was within the context of your comment, which was questioning whether gene18 ever complained about Lin when Lin was shooting 33% from 3 pt range last year...because you said you doubted he ever did. Well, technically, Lin was really on the two extremes (for the most part), so gene18 very well could have complained about Lin when he was shooting a terrible 26% from 3 pt range and NOT complaining about Lin when he was shooting 40%. It was just a fun wrinkle to point out in your statement -- my (and JustAGuy's) comment adds very little actual value other than that haha.
I think the 2nd unit needs Lin..otherwise the starters will have to play too many minutes in order to hold onto a lead
That's what I like most about him. When ignorant judgemental people are proven wrong and having to eat their words, it brings a smile to my face. I wish Lin much success with the Rockets. He's a good guy, and laughing at haters is always fun.
Is he still there on the bench at OKC? Last time I checked, he wasn't. I guess I should check again...
What do you think. You have seen my posts. I go by what the stats point to. What leads you to believe that I did not see Lin's 33% as very troubling? I did not think it was abysmal, however, and I was surprised that he used such a word to describe 33% shooting. I certainly would not call Beverley's three point shooting abysmal. As a rocket fan I think you should be very concerned about an announcer saying that about any player on the team. It is demeaning. That's why I mentioned it. I was shocked at what Clyde said. Why do you assume that you know what other's feel and think? Now I must ask you to reflect on your own thought processes. Without any knowledge of my thoughts about Lin's playing and 3 Pt shooting at the beginning of last year,and without any knowledge of my background , (Basketball and Stats knowledge particularly) what was that something that made you think that, and why would you want to know what I was thinking about Jeremy Lin ? I do not think that Beverley is a bad three point shooter. His history indicates that he shoot between 33% and 37% during his career, including the Euroleague. I feel that this informs us that he most likely will shoot at this level for sometime if he does not get a good shot coach. I do not think that he will be a 40% 3PT shooter any time soon. 3 Pt shooting is not a great weakness of his. Ido think he is limited in many aspect of bball. However, people expect too much from him if they expect him to shoot at 40%. BTW people who expect Lin to shoot at 40% and above are expecting a great deal. The 40% 3 PT level is a level few reach and even fewer maintain.
Simple. I asked because I was curious, as 95% or more of your posts on the board are dedicated to criticizing Beverley and pontificating on how bad he is. I rarely even see you post about anything else. Thanks for obliging me, though.
You make it sound like Harden is sacrificing a lot of his touches now that Dwight joined the team. He is taking .7 less shots a game this year than last. His usage is down by only 1 point from 27.4 to 26.4. It's a whole different story when you bring in a ball dominant point guard. I'd like to think that Harden would change if Rondo joined the team. But, it's human nature to do what has worked for you in the past. His playing style from last year has gotten him national acclaim and people doing what he tells them to. There is no reason for him to change it unless they start to consistently lose.
Or unless the coaching staff demanded it. Organizations go out of their way to please their franchise/best players, for better or worse. It's the reason Lin was moved to the bench, rather than asking Harden to compromise, and it's the reason we're pretending Dwight is an effective post player when it's clear P&R is the preferable option. I don't think they'd bring in a 3rd star like a Rondo or a CP3 without making adjustments to make sure they were happy too. I'd actually be pretty surprised if any one of those guys would agree to come here without having a conversation about ball-handling duties, given the way our system runs. I'd certainly want to be clear about my role before I signed.
Not to be nasty, but I don't pontificate. I mostly point out disparities between what people think and what the stats point to. For example, my statements that expecting 40% 3 pt shooting from Beverley or Lin is somewhat unrealistic ,as mmost poit guards including many of the elite guards don't shoot 3's at this level. Look it up . You will be surprised. I do think that Beverley has a limited bball game. Sorry.
That's kinda my point. The coaching staff won't demand it of him unless they start consistently losing. His playing style has made him the franchise player and people saying he is the best sg in the game. It's worked for him, so why would he want to drastically change his game unless they consistently lose or it's become obvious after several years of trying, that they won't win a championship without change.
This team ain't winning a championship if decisions aren't actually made for basketball reasons. Too much ego only decreases overall potential.
Does it trouble you just as much when Lin is criticized for tying his shoes a certain way on this board...constantly.
