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Did the Rockets miss Jeremy Lin?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by zeyu, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Play07

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    CSN players grades
    Lin: A

    It was really unfortunate for Lin that he suffered a grade-1 right knee sprain against Atlanta in late November since he was enjoying a strong offensive start to the season. Lin is first in the NBA in shooting percentage on drives, shooting 65.4 percent, among players with at least 55 drives (A drive is considered any touch that starts at least 20 feet of the hoop and is dribbled within 10 feet of the hoop and excludes fast breaks). (LeBron James is second at 63.8 percent). His true shooting percentage is 64.1%, among the best in the league for guards.

    Tuff... yeah we dont need LIN
     
  2. cw3k

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    Please trade Lin and Asik. Trade them to a team where they are appreciated more. Allow Lin to do what he do best, a PG, not a corner perimeter 3 points shooter here.
     
  3. Roxnostalgia

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    You know why people get sick of Lin threads? We get new posters with thousands of posts using player grades as irrefutable evidence of a player's worth. Especially when that poster has the number of that player in their screen name.
     
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  5. Play07

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    man you stop crying you sound like somebody took ya lunch money, those were stats stats numbers don’t lie are you mad ??? didn’t want to see that ??

    and it’s a good chance I started being a rocket fan at an age younger than you, don’t let the time frame someone start posting here determine how long they’ve been a fan.

    "07" is for the year I pledged a fraternity in college and my line number FYI if you must know
     
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    There was no denying that Yao is starter material with his height and ability, there is nothing to complain about for Yao. There was never any doubt for his starting position after he broke out and started to become dominant. Yao also is 7 + tall and is born in China, he's basically an anomaly for Asians. Asians cannot identify with him or can even hope to dream of playing basketball unless you were 7 foot tall.

    Yi sucks, end of story. No one wants to identify with him.

    Lin on the other hand, is 6'3 and is more easier to identify with because of his height. He is also American as well, so lots of Asian Americans can identify with him.
     
  7. otis thorpe

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    Its really sad some of the more setablished posters are lofs
     
  8. ccrystal99

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    First of all, I want to tell you that I am a die hard Lin fan. I will follow him and support him wherever he goes. I also want to tell you that I don't think you are helping him by calling out to trade him. Trade or no trade is not up to us. While he is with the Rockets, it is more productive to support him to maximize his value to the team, like how he is handling the situation himself. He showed intellenge and heart. I think the majority of Rocket fans appreciate his high standard of ehetics. I urge all my fellow Lin fans to support him as a Rocket while he is on the team, and help to create a harmonious environment here. Peace may be a dream, but with more of us trying, the world could be better.
     
  9. TheJet

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    One of the better posts I've read today. Not all Lin fans are created equal. As a Rockets fan I appreciate what Lin brings to the team. I have no agenda or hate for any particular player, regardless of how they may frustrate me at times during the game. The thought of questioning if Lin is missed is outright silly to me. Of course he's missed. People are just stirring the pot.
     
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    OP, what have you unleashed?!
     
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    I hate /thread. It is annoying when people seem to think their comments are so perfect that the entire conversation can now end.

    Kudos for at least appending /thread to someone else's comment.
     
  12. ccrystal99

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    Thank you! :)
     
  13. Clutch

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    Overlap. Rockets have more asset overlap than probably any team in the league. Omer Asik plays the same position as Dwight Howard. Jeremy Lin doesn't necessarily play the same position as James Harden, but is best-used in the same ball-dominant, playmaking role that Harden owns.

    (This is especially painful when you realize all four are making max money next season, but that's another story)

    As far as Lin the bench spark, his production can be filled at times by Aaron Brooks and increasing Beverley's minutes. Brooks, for the most part, played well. For example, in the 7 games, Aaron Brooks hit almost 45% from three-point range. That's not to say Lin doesn't do it better, but in this particular small sample stretch, they filled it.

    The overlap/great depth doesn't really apply to Chandler Parsons. There is no adequate replacement for what he does for this team.
     
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    Great post. Thats all I've ben saying this entire time.
     
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    That is key! There was some talk in another thread regarding Asik and maybe being able to get Turner & Hawes from the 76ers. What Hawes would bring to the Rockets is obvious but the real key would be in what Turner could bring and part of that would be as a backup to Parsons with the ability to defend wings and dribble penetrate offensively. Basically a poor man's Iggy.

    So yeah, Parsons' skillset is very unique and clearly is something that is crucial to the Rockets. And I don't think it is any coincidence that Terence Jones' numbers went down when Parsons' wasn't on the floor.
     
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    Court Adjourned.....

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    Very well said clutch,

    Lin would do good here, but i don't think he will be much missed if hes gone ONLY because of how much we pay him. Why pay a player 8 mil when you have a player who makes literally 1/8th of that who can fill in without dramatically decreasing quality ballplay. It doesn't make sense. If Lin was getting paid 1-2 mil, i'd gladly say lets keep him. but right now we have some good assets we can go after, especially after this season, we will need the cap space to pull in another star. Right now we're just paying star money for an average player.
     
  19. Spiegel

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    That's why Chandler is so valueable because we have no one who can do the things he brings when he is injured. Bev and Brooks can replace Lin's output.
     
  20. torocan

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    I would buy this argument to some degree IF we had a reasonably priced option to fill Harden's role as a back up.

    Here's the problem.

    Let's say we remove Lin from the roster and Harden becomes injured or ill for a stretch of games. What then becomes of the offense? Neither Lin or Brooks have the offensive skills to fill that gap in any meaningful way.

    Brooks relies nearly entirely on his ability to sink his buckets. Beverley is an even worse option than Brooks.

    There is a reason that teams load up on Point Guards, and it's not just to fill space. You ideally want a back up that can adequately fill the role if one of your players goes down or is ineffective against a particular defender/line up.

    Now, if you can find a legitimate play creating/facilitating Point Guard at $1M, then Lin becomes significantly more expendable. However, that's not how our current roster is built. And as the Parsons experience has show us, NOT having a true substitute/back up for a particular skill set (think skills versus position), if that player becomes unavailable you end up scrambling.

    Personally, I think that if the Rockets do decide to trade/move Lin, they should make a play making/facilitating back up PG as a priority. Without that you have a huge drop off offensively over the long run whenever Harden is benched, ill or injured.
     

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