Did you ever play basketball? Your attention on the court is always split between the player you guard and any one who is coming to set the screen. PnR is never defendable by the guard alone. But it is not about attention. Beverly is an average defender but great for his pay. Do not pretend that he is the one carrying the defense. No one carries the defense.
Sure, but you can't just teleport around a screen. Some players do stupid things on screens (going under on deadeye shooters, or doing some crazy spin move). But ultimately if you can't get around them, it's up to team defense. We don't have airtight rotations like the Bulls do or crazy trapping like the Heat do, we have a handful of good individual defenders who try their hardest and for some reason get crapped on along with the guys who are dogging it.
Especially in the the first quarter where it mattered. Got to Curry early and Warriors couldn't get any offensive flow going. Beverley (and Harden!) did a tremendous job in setting the defensive tone to start the game. See how good our backcourt was defensively when Bev was not the only one putting in work? Need to see this every game.
We won plenty of games without lin. Parsons for mois the most valueable piece,.Lin can be replaced with Aaron Brooks but Parsons we have no one who comes close to what he brings.
Add Probable all-star Stephan Curry to the list of Starting PGs that got COOKed by Bev Defensively. 11/5 Lillard 22 pts 5 assists 11/7 Blake 14 and 2 11/9 CP3 14 and 13 11/11 Lowrey 16 and 2 11/13 Woten 18 and 11 with 10 Rebs (Woten got lucky, abnormal game) 11/14 Felton 8 and 7 (locked down!) 11/19 Bradley 11 and 0 (that's right 0 assists!) 11/20 Ellis 37 and 8 (Bev had to guard him so he was having to guard a bigger SG. fluke) 11/23 Rubio 8 and 7 ( Locked down!) 11/25 Conley 10 and 10 ( Locked down!) 11/27 Teague 6 and 4 (Locked down!) 11/29 Taylor 16 and 12 11/30 Parker 27 and 8 (Parker was 13 for 27 and held under 50% shooting. Pat makes the game winning tip in!!) 12/2 Burks 9-18 21pts 6 assists (playing I denver homecooking and thin air fluke) 12/4 Dragic 6-11 19 only 2 Assists 4 steals (two non called fouls) 12/6 Curry 5-14 22 pts 5 assists (next!!) Bev chipped in on Offense tonight too. Not quite as high as his solid season averages but still good. 2-6 6 pts 1 Reb 0assists in 32 minutes tonight. but he did have 2 steals Important thing is kept Curry under lock For the Season Bev is currently as of 12/6/2012: 9.3 PPG 40% FG 34% 3FG 3.9 RPG!! 2.3 Assist Big win tonight PBev!!
good. Because no one player can lead a team without others contributing. I don't know why some are called "role" players. You're a strong player or not, everyone has a role. Lin is one of the strong players on the team along with Parsons. If you want to call Howard and Harden super strong players that's fine. But to dismiss Parsons and Lin as role players or Lin as a "bench" player or "backup" or "reserve" is just not fair. Whatever time he comes in the game isn't anywhere near as important as how he contributes, when and his impact as a team member in helping the team win. And sometimes, he is the leader out there and making things happen on the court. It isn't always Dwight or Harden that does that, Parsons and Lin will do it a fair amount too.
Oh please, Aaron Brooks doesn't do half the things Lin does. Lin and Parsons have more or less equal value and may be even co 3rd best player on the team. I can't think that one is really above the other in terms of their play. Both have their off games and both have their high-impact games.
I think Bev's D is highly overrated, but c'mon, you don't judge a 3 & D guy on PER. His job is to be Tony Allen not CP3. Evaluate him on his D and 3pt%.
There are any number of guys out there who if you tell them, hey, we don't care if you contribute any points or assists, just spend all your energy on defense that can do the same job that Beverly does. Hell, even Lin could do it. Though perhaps not Brooks. At the end of the day, Beverly doesn't measure up thus far as a starting calibre point guard. And he wouldn't be one on any team that doesn't have James Harden. He's been propped up on here largely because of the LOF/LOF obsessives war.
Agree Agree. On any other team, Bev would not be a starter. Bev is definitely a kind of hustle and energy guy you need to go far. However, Parsons has been given every chance to succeed for various reasons, given far too much playing time. I am not surprised that he has this back injury.
I suppose you know more than Bull and Clyde Drexler? Two former NBA players who go out of their way every single game to PRAISE Pat Beverly and say that the PG situation now is a lot better than last year. Bull and Clyde even said that Pat Beverly is everything that this team Needs as a starter. I don't hear Clyde and Bull say anything like that about Lin. In fact the only time the really mention Lin is when Lin commits one of his numerous trademark turnovers. Clyde and Bull rarely have anything positive to say about Lin as a starter. That should tell you something. Even Bill Worrell who has covered Houston basketball for decades always speaks very prasingly if Bev CONSTANTLY and rarely mentions Lin. Do you know more than him? The only guy that likes Lin as a starter is Calvin Murphy and even he might have changed his mind.
In fact I can't remember one single time Bull, Bill or Clyde has said one negative thing about Bev. Nothing but praise for his amazing Hustle and heart. On the flip side they rip a new one ever game did his sloppy ball handling and turnovers. Lin is a bench player and he pretty much leads the team in turnovers. As Bull, Clyde and Bill say every game there is not much drop off between Lin's offense and Bev's But there is a HUGE drop over between Bev and Lin's defense and turnovers. They literally talk about it every game. Listen durning the next game. So do you no more about baseketball than Clyde, Bull and Bill?
To me atm Parson and Lin are at the same level off efficiency its just alot of people choose not to accept the fact that Lin is doing well. That's a fact! Its no surprise tho thruout his career to date everyone been downplaying him but he again and again proves them wrong. Just sit back and relax he'll be top 5 pg in a few years from now.
Lin cannot be replaced by Brooks. Sure, he may adequately replace him in a couple of games but Brooks can't drive, penetrate and dish like Lin can, and unless he's completely hot, he's usually an inefficient shooter when he gets his 15+. He's also a bad defensive player, and his size doesn't help. Not to mention that this has only been a few games where he's been playing relatively well. If lin were to miss a substantial amount of time you'd start to realize that the team misses him. I agree that Brooks has exceeded my expectations and he's definitely stepped up when Harden or Lin have gone down, but to suggest he can completely replace Lin when he isn't as good at defense, can't put the same pressure on the defense, and isn't shooting as efficiently is pretty ridiculous
Lin and Asik are going to be traded by the 19th so we will see how much the team won't miss Lin. Bev is making it impossible for for starting PGs to even score or effect the game. AB is break off 14-20 points off the bench. Here's the thing man. Bev is Averaging 35 mpg and Harden around 37. A backup PG is really only needed for about 5-6 minutes a game on this team. The Rox have a winning record of 3-2 with Lin Out. The Rockets don't need Lin to Win! Bev and AB are more than enough. It's gonna be fine!
