I really wish we ran an offense like that. We don't screen enough, we focus on passing outside the perimeter to shoot a 3 or drive. :'( We have two really great PNR ball handlers and we aren't even utiliziing that their strengths much.
Lin has been shown to play well as a started on or off the bench. Bev plays or fits better with the starting line up. Off the bench he can't create, but he would be good for bursts of energy. However, if he let Brooks be the handler and Bev as the defensive specialist and spot up shooter off the bench this could work, but I really don't like it when Brooks and Bev are on at the same time, unless it's in smal stretches (maybe vs the opponent's bench too).
Just for clarification. In the last Portland game, Lin was much more effective defensively against Lilliard than Beverley was. Even the Portland announcers made a note of that. Not continue on with your fantasies.
Beverley is nothing more than a junkyard dog. His effort is there obviously. But his skill set needs to improve. The reason he has very few turnovers lately is because he doesn't make plays. His position is point guard. The job description is distributing the balls to lead to baskets. As far as I'm concerned, he is not doing a good job at offensive side.
Opposing Starting points guards are down to avg only 16.4 PPG and 6.4 assists!! These numbers as of 12/5/2013! Bev making strong progress!
They would be torching Lin for 38.7/14.4/12.2/9.7/6.6/5.9/4.0 Triple-doubles and then some. Am I doing it right?
On an off night when Harden cant buy a shot, who do you think should be in there? Bev or Lin. Bev cant create or get his own shot and make plays for his teammates. Lin would of asssisted and probably gotten Harden into rythm. If you disagree, then you're just a BOF. He doesn't bring much to the table period. Everyone here is saying that its all about the help defense. Well why dont you put your best player Lin on the floor and help him on defense, wouldnt that be better than having a sub-par offensive player in the game?
I don't expect you to think about this objectively or logically, as the vast majority of your posts are aimed at bashing Beverley and going on about how useless he is. But I'll humor you. On nights when Harden can't buy a shot, Lin and Chandler are key. We were winning when Lin was out, but we had Harden + Chandler. My best guess would be that we could win with Harden + Lin, but no Chandler. Having both of them out at the same time is offensively detrimental, for sure. Had Lin not been injured, I'm sure he could have helped. Chandler, too. But they aren't available to play right now, so I'm not sure what your argument is there. Beverley not being an scoring-focused player is precisely why he was moved into the starting lineup -- with him playing off-ball, Harden can run the offense in the starting unit and Lin can run it in the second. If the starting PG's job on this team was to run the offense/make plays for his teammates, Lin would still be starting. But that is not the system we are running. In this system, Harden runs the offense in the starting unit. Bev does what is asked of him, which is to bring the ball up the court and dump it off to Harden. And though I know you don't want to accept it, it was working: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Beverley-Harden-Parsons-Jones-Howard have a net rating of +23.3, best in the league for lineups that have played over 100 minutes.</p>— D.J. Foster (@fosterdj) <a href="https://twitter.com/fosterdj/statuses/407666985577615360">December 3, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> More importantly, we were winning. Consistently. We will likely get back to winning when everyone is back and healthy. And again, I know you have trouble seeing things objectively -- but if you think Beverley doesn't bring anything at all to the table, you can't actually watch games. Last I checked, creating multiple extra possessions per game was a useful skill in a game of possessions. Anyway, I don't expect you to ever acknowledge that he might be useful to this team in any way, or that him starting isn't the cause of the team's current woes, but those are my thoughts.
Exactly the team is 8-4 with with Bev as the stater and Lin on the bench or out The team is 4-2 with Lin as a starter period The team is 2-2 since Lin has been out. The team has more wins with Bev as the starter period. Bev has been putting up good O numbers and locking down opposing starting back courts. See numbers above. Bev is getting some period!
To be fair I count lin as the starter in the season opener since Bev got hurt middle I the first and Lin played most of the game.
And from what I remember Bev was handling Kemba went Bev went down. Bev had Kemba looking like Suge Knight Broke cousin "Shook" Knight!
First of all i want to say that I like Bev's hustle and the mentality he comes with. But smh it's not even that much about his defense. Although he can't really fight through screens as evidenced in the last 5 minutes of the game last night, it is ultimately about team defense. But that's not where I'm getting at. It's the fact that almost his entire offensive game is predicated on whether he can knock down a usually open 3. He can't create or penetrate and dish at all. That's not his game. The opposing point guards are scoring 20+ a game, but he's only scoring like 9 a game in 38 minutes of playing time. And when Harden's playing poorly like he did yesterday, he especially needs to step up offensively. So just because of that reason he's a net negative. I don't care if people wanna divert the blame to team defense or whatever (I actually agree with that on some plays), but since he has a rather lowly offensive game, it doesn't even matter. I'm not saying Lin would play any better defensively, but at least he'll score 16 of his own and be able to penetrate and dish 4-5 assists to combat the high scoring outputs put forth by opposing guards. And at least he'd take some defensive pressure off Harden. Bev might be a little better defensively, but he's a huge drop off offensively.
8 wins is twice as much as 4. So that means if Lin was starting every game we would only have one half of the wins we have right now. How does 6-14 sound to you LOFs? Hard to argue against pure math is it?
Yes, and Lin was doing that extremely well off the bench. He's not doing it right now because he's injured and cannot play. Am I missing something?
