18 "basketball experts" voted Yao Ming #3 ROY: The final votes

In reality, ROY does mean that much at all. But I still feel a little
bittered that Yao was not even a co-rookie given the fact
he and Amare have the similar stats, similar impact on their
team's game...

Hopefully, next year motivated Yao will be able to lead the Rox
to promoise land. Forget about ROY, forget about race or political issues which we have no any control whatsoever. Get over it.

 

im sure jackie robinson had the full support of ever major leaguer, and manager his first year in the majors.

 

That's not even a close comparison. Jackie Robinson faced hatred. There were players who tried to hurt him and his teammates weren't totally supportive.

Nobody "hated" Yao. They may have been jealous of him because of all his publicity and endorsements.

Hopefully, no one will ever face what Jackie Robinson had to face.

 

I agree with you. "Favortism" may be the correct word here.
It is more clear in the case of those who voted for Butler.

I assumed that those writers used the reasons that some of Butller's stat are better than Yao's and the play-off does not play the role in ROY. (and may be "Butller does not have great player to help him, etc)
However, when Yao's stat is ,although slightly, better than Amare's, they still choose Amare as their second choice.
It is like all the sudden, the stat does not matter, the play-off does matter more in the second choice. LOL

 

I am not going to beat this thing to death because it is over now and it could have went either way. But I have seen alot of people in these threads saying it should have at least been a co-roy. You can't just say they both deserve it so we will give it to both. It was a vote amongst over a hundred people and the votes would have had to have fallen just right or they would have had to conspired for this to happen. And as you can see it was not just a 2 man race. 13 people thought Butler was the roy. I am not saying the nba wouldn't conspire, but that would be cheating and I hope you don't want your guy to win that way.

 

This is a very interesting quote and is a microcosm of everything youve posted within the last season.

There are many BBS people here who are annoyed by all the Yao Only fans (myself included - at times).

What's interesting is that although they might be annoyed at those specific posters, they almost unanimously hope Yao will do well because it benefits the Rockets.

I think 99.9% of the people at Clutch City would consider Yao, "our guy" .

You might be the only poster in this entire BBS that roots for the Rockets but against Yao.

 

Those who choose Amare over Yao: Playoff is more important

Those who choose Butler over Yao: Statistics is more important

Those who choose Amare and Butler over Yao: _______ is more important

Any suggestions to fill in the blank?

 

Nice catch. How about short is more important

 

ANY current player that blocked Shaqs first three shots is not only good enough to be the outright Rookie of the Year, but should be in the running for the mvp!!!

 

i have never seen a better case for co-rookies of the year.... identical stats, identical records. amare made the playoffs but yao held the better record when playing against each other.

if only one player could win it, i'd still give the edge to Yao. maybe there's some bias here... but alot of the offense focused around Yao... and he got double-teamed majority of the time. amare probably got similar numbers, but he didn't have the same defensive attention as Yao got.

i don't want to blame things on conspiracy or racism... but this sucks. i would like to have to ROY's on the same team.

 

to start a very stupid conspiracy theory... do you think Jesse Jackson was about to boycott the NBA because a black player hadn't won the ROY since 2000?






(goes back and hides in the hangout)

 

Those who chose Amare over Yao: Hyping the dunk is more important.

 

I want to meet those 13 people who voted Caron Butler best rookie. His team didn't improve despite playing in the east. He had Eddie Jones and Brian grant. Thats where my problem lies with this thing. Nothing has to do with Amare and the season he had, but Butler as the best rookie? Give me a break.

 

I think it will ultimately be a good thing that Yao didn't win the ROY. First, though deserving, he won't have to deal with being portrayed as an undeserving NBA golden boy who won the award due to hype. Second, I think Yao can use this to drive him. I think if Yao develops a little agression to his game (as well as 20 pounds of upper body muscle) he will put a lot of MVP trophies where his ROY award should be.

 

i wanna know how the hell ginobili got a 2nd place vote! i don't care who that guy put 1st, that means he put 2 of caron/yao/amare behind gino. joel meyers is all i can possibly think of.

and yeah, 13 firsts for caron is ridiculous. it was an obvious 2 man race, no one else should've received a first place vote.

also, how have we had 2 co-ROY instances so recently. it seems like getting the exact same points over all those votes would be a very hard thing to pull off no matter how close the race is. getting that exact match has to be hard, and for it to happen, what, twice in a decade, seems amazing.

 

How about the guy who did not even think Amare was top 3? or the one who voted Ginobili #2, or any who did not think Amare,Yao,and Butler were the top 3? They all have their own agenda when voting, but is there a better way? Fans? No, you see what they do to the allstar game. I would say the best way to do it is like the nfl, where the players and coaches vote for the probowl, but can't vote for their own team. Unless they ever go that route, this is about as fair as you can do it.

 

Well, you know, the Suns only won 1 more game than the Rockets. If that's the difference between choosing ROY's, then it's a stupid award anyway.

To be honest with you, it's going to be much easier getting Yao into good physical shape, than getting Amare to drive left, to hit a short jumper, to hit a midrange jumper, and to learn how to pass.

 

Well you know the Rocket's only won one more game than the Knicks in the finals. If thats the differrence between crowning a champion, then it is stupid award anyways. lol. That is what sports are all about, one game. Any game seven comes down to, you guessed it, one game. The football playoffs and superbowl, again, one game. And the Suns really gave their last game away anyways to rest up for the playoffs. Amare is the only starter who even got 20 minutes.

 

No no no. Don't make that horrible metaphor.

Winning one more game means the Suns are better than the Rockets. But it doesn't mean Amare is better than Yao.

l o l

 

Their stats were almost identical. They both had their strengths and weaknesses. They both had their ups and downs. They both had their hardship stories. What does that leave? The playoff spot they were battling for. Amare stayed consistent and Yao faded. And in the end it came down to, you guessed it, one game. I do not see the problem with this being the tiebreaker. It could have went either way but in the end, this is what swayed the voters, ONE GAME.