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Obama's Approval Rating

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Hustle Town, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Johndoe804

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    We'll see how the economy responds to the Fed discussing a taper at the beginning of next year. I work in banking, so I know first hand that if they do so, demand for CDO's will tank and interest rates will be much higher. The problem with the Fed's policy of QE is that they're backing themselves into a corner. They pretty much have to keep up the easing, or markets will react negatively. It makes sense for stock markets to be at an all time high when the Fed is pumping so much money into the economy, whether its being pumped in via bond purchases that the government is using to finance massive spending in various sectors of the economy, or via direct asset purchases. The problem is what occurs once they turn off the pump. One other thing to consider is that they're basing their policy off of current economic indicators, but their policies don't affect the economy immediately. It takes time for Fed policy to have an effect, so even though they may discuss a taper at the beginning of next year, the effects of last year's monetary policy may not have even been experienced. Things may not be looking as rosy next winter.
     
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  2. bigtexxx

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    You're so full of excuses! Obama is too lazy to work across the aisle. 150+ rounds of golf, yet no time spend on creating jobs.

    He's the leader, he's got to be accountable. No more tire excuses and casting blame. Get it done.
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Obama isn't too lazy to work across the aisle, he just doesn't know how. In chicago, its easy to rally up the 80% to strong arm the 20% to do what you want. Obama treats anyone who disagrees with him as the enemy and doesnt understand why they refuse to work with him. You don't get compromise when you're at war.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    Agreed that he doesn't know how. This is why so many people complained about his inexperience, and how it would hurt his ability to do the job. Well, told ya so.

    Voters fell for his marketing shtick. All sizzle, no steak. And he's already lame duck so I would expect much during the remainder of his time in office.
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    You're so full of ****. The GOP specifically said that they would refuse to work with Obama under any circumstances, then convinced the sheep (that would be you) that the lack of bipartisanship was Obama's fault.

    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    You don't get it, do you? Lets break it down into relative terms. If you and another coworker were vying for a promotion, and your coworker constantly highlighted your failures and weaknesses only to get the job, would you work with him after he got the promotion?

    Dirty politics has caught up with him. The "blame Bush" campaign got old quick in the campaigning and four years later, it was pathetic to continue to use excuses why you didn't succeed at your job. Obama is terrible at being a leader. To be a good president, you need to be a good leader to the country, not your party.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    I completely get it, it really doesn't appear that you have a grasp of our political system. The "coworker" dynamic you posit is the exact same dynamic in every single presidential campaign without exception. Within weeks of the election, the GOP put forth as their primary goal "making Obama a one-term president," absolutely REFUSING to work with him on anything at all. That would be the definition of party over country and it was the REPUBLICANS who engaged in this strategy, not Obama. Obama bent over backwards trying to work with people who thumbed their noses at him at every opportunity.

    Then, the GOP actually convinced the rubes (that would be you) that it was Obama who refused to work across the aisle. You're welcome to believe the liars, but that is YOUR failing and it is a failing that truly makes you look ignorant.
     
  8. Dubious

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    It's laughable that the GOP fanboys keep saying this same thing over and over. The pretense that the GOP House would agree to anything remotely suggested by Mr. Obama would be hilarious if it weren't so damaging to the nation. On one side of their two faces they proclaim to do everything they can to sabotage the President and on the other they blame him for not being able to "lead" them.

    It's plainly illustrated, painfully obvious, commonly accepted but you insist on repeating that same illogical talking point over and over and over with no explanations or examples. Are you just stupid or just so blindly party-centric that reality doesn't sink in?

    Mr. Obama could have been a marvelously Centrist President, except for the current sad state of American democracy. I guess you're proud, but I don't know about what.

    And, other than the hard core obstructionist in the teabag districts, it's going to cost you any almost reasonable candidates. However much you insist it's the President, thinking people know it's the GOP.
     
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  9. Space Ghost

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    People like you are the ones who place the party over the people. I expect nothing less from politicians. Did you actually read what you wrote? I know the Republicans are stonewalling the Democrats. There is no denying that. And I refuse to support this. However, you still fail to realize that Obama has no interest to work with the Republicans either. He has not "bent over backwards". He has "blame bush" for 4 straight years. He has blamed the GOP for not doing what he wants.

    I hate to break it to you brah, but if you were my co worker and was constantly throwing me under the bus, I wouldn't work with you either. He was only elected because he stated he was not the Republicans and Bush. He promised Hope and Change. He did not deliver. He brought more of the same shenanigans. What YOU need to understand is that both parties are the same.
     
  10. nolimitnp

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    99% of the time political "polls" are absolutely useless. It's painfully sad, but most people I know either don't follow politics close enough and/or are misinformed, or don't follow at all. And of course you have to be skeptical of anything coming from mass media.
     
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  12. dmc89

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    Many immigrants have a better grasp of our political system than posters in this thread who call themselves American citizens.

    It's true Obama was aloof and distant - especially in his early days. But, he's done a reasonable job since then by compromising on very important progressive ideas during every fiscal/budget/debt ceiling crisis. Could he have gone above and beyond this standard by shining every Republican senator and congressman's shoes? Sure. Also he could have been their golf caddy. :rolleyes:

    To placate this current version of the GOP, one must be a contortionist. Even better if one resigns like Nixon so the other side can take over. Perhaps that may have pleased the Tea Party as "working across the aisle". If you keep conceding to obstructionists that have no sincere desire to govern this country, to fix Gilded Age-like income and wealth disparity or public education, then you doom this country's middle class to the wolves.

    I somewhat regret giving him my vote given his costly mistake surrounding the PPACA. After he "won" the last fiscal game of chicken, Obama had the GOP where he wanted them. Now they're back like any good politicians. Yes, Obama is the embodiment of the Houston Texans in the 4th Q giving away the 21-point lead.
     
  13. nolimitnp

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    Or maybe Obama is one who refuses to be bought. We know lobbies play a huge role in government. You can buy votes as most people have their price. Oil companies have huge pockets and Bush was literally partying with the kings of Arabia during his presidency. How odd oil, Saudi Arabia and the leader of the free world would come together so closely? How many Congressman bought stock in Halliburton or benefited another way? And let's not forget Obama inherited a United States on the brink of recession involved in 2 wars with massive debt.

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    Fast forward to Obama with most of the same Congress still in Office. What, Obama isn't going to directly benefit himself and put the people first? Congress, or rather the people funding Congress, say f$%k that, we're going to make any decision for Obama difficult and make him look terrible.

    Look at Obamacare. First after trying to repeal Obamacare, 43 times, getting it started has been a huge debacle. Anyone expecting a smooth roll out was insane. We're trying to reform a health system to provide health insurance to 310,000,000 people, a HUGE undertaking, maybe the biggest in history. I guarantee you somewhere behind the scenes are the pharmaceutical companies. If healthcare is truly going to be reformed, we're going to have to start CURING people of diseases and/or providing preventative services. What is one of the most costly forms of healthcare? Medication. Medications today don't cure anything. They can improve the symptoms at best, but that comes with side effects which often lead to the need for other medications. Healthy people are bad news for pharmaceutical companies, hence the benefit of sabotage.
     
  14. Mathloom

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    It's really amazing that you characterize them as two coworkers vying for a promotion. In your examples, these coworkers have sworn to do what's best for the company before what's best for themselves - i.e. work together even if the others side was mean to you. What you would do as a flawed human being has absolutely nothing to do with the responsibilities of elected officials.
     
  15. Hustle Town

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    Your immature and idiotic language dismisses your argument
     
  16. Hustle Town

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    Why did you bring race into this discussion? You and your kind are the reason racism is a problem in this country.
     
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  17. Hustle Town

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    It's not the website that's the problem. The problem is Obama promised everyone would keep their healthcare. People are losing their healthcare by the millions. His broken promise is a serious breach of trust between him and the American people.
     
  18. Hustle Town

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    Your comments are filled with hatred. It's really sad, actually.
     
  19. Hustle Town

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    Great post! It's about time someone posted a reasonable argument about quantitative easing.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Yes, I become angry from witnessing ignorance. Your pity is not necessary, but thank you anyways.
     

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