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Mchales treatment of Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lid1013, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Breitbard

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    Sorry, would have called him an LOF earlier but I had to get some stuff done at work. :)

    Baldwin's last six stories about the Rockets:
    • Nov 22: No Jeremy Lin, no win: Another senseless benching leads to Rockets collapse — and it's on McHale
    • Oct 31: Bloodied Jeremy Lin saves Rockets from coaching blunder, shows class and true skills
    • Oct 11: Global joke: Jeremy Lin benching proves Kevin McHale doesn't respect Rockets difference maker
    • Sep 28: Jeremy Lin needs to be set free: Whether McHale likes it or not, he's key to new Dwight Howard Rockets
    • July 28: Jeremy Lin not Rockets dead yet: Despite obvious snubs, Linsanity proves its value
    • July 13: Dwight Howard name drops Justin Timberlake, talks of making music video in wild Houston intro
     
  2. AvgJoe

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    I didn't think Lin played that terribly. He shot terribly, he struggled to getting to the hoop, but he didn't really make any mistakes. He guarded his man ok (as his normal defense, not great, but ok). Just his shots weren't fallen, but given he only had 2 good looks, the rest 3 were just last second shots because of bad team offense. There were no time given to him to find his game. I rather consider it as McHale views Lin as inconsistent, doesn't trust him to keep him on the floor if he doesn't play well. Lin was inconsistent last year, but this year he's been consistent, I would like to see McHale believes in his 6th man and keep him in the game because Lin has been consistent this season so far.
     
  3. HoopFan

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    That's it. You said it. He did not really make any mistakes, which means that he did not play his game. His game is aggressive and attacking. By his standard, he did play poorly.

     
  4. bws

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    i'd say he had 11 good games, 2 or 3 great games, and 2 bad ones.
     
  5. bws

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    But McHale has been playing Lin. He only didn't play him in this game and it just seems Lin didn't have it. It's really OK if you are a Lin fan. If McHale continues to do so, then there's cause to complain about it. For now, it could be even that Lin's energy was off, maybe he had a slight fever. We don't really know why Lin didn't play that much but this one game short minutes doesn't mean that McHale won't go back to getting Lin around 30-32 minutes in the next 4-6 games if Lin is playing how he's played in his good games or even if he starts slow but seems to have something in the tank.
     
  6. AvgJoe

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    Yes. From that perspective yes. He struggled to stay aggressive because of how Mavs cut off his drive to the basket. They really defended the lane well, so both Harden and Lin weren't very effective from driving in, but at the same time, that is why our front court was doing so great.

    What I'm saying is McHale didn't give Lin the time to find his game. Not realizing without Lin's offense and play making, it will hurt the team a lot. I can understand why he did that, he thought the starters did a good job earlier, so they can finish the job, but it backfired. I rather him put more trust in Lin and play him despite he played poorly earlier and see if he can find his game back. This game is the only game so far this year Lin really struggled, but he only played 18 min so it's not long enough to count as an inconsistent game.

    One more note, when the Mavs were making their way back first against our backup units in the 4Q. McHale pulled all reserves and put all starters back at the 8min mark. To me, that is panicking, and shows that he trusts his starter unit too much. That is also why he plays the starter unit very long minutes. A good coach needs to stay calm in those situations and that calms the players. He needs to make the right subs, instead of pulling all reserves and shuffle it with starters. He panicked, with that Mav line up, I think the better team would be Bev, Lin, Harden, Parsons and Howard. We obviously had trouble dealing with Ellis, that is why we should have played small to improve our defense speed and perimeter defense.
     
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  7. glacier921

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    I can see russia from my backyard.
     
  8. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Wow you are so dumb... Let me educate you, however futile that may prove...

    1. Lin Fans can qualify as basketball and Rockets fans as long as they are not Lin Only Fans. LOF's are different than Lin fans in that Lin is their idol. Any perceived slights, no matter how asinine, is treated as a personal affront for them. Harden plays more minutes than Lin? Lets say dumb, hateful thinks about him. McHale benched Lin? Must be racist!

    2. New members period should not start threads. The vast majority of stupid threads are typically started by these dumb new members who think their opinion deserves its own thread as opposed to being a normal post in an exiting thread. LOF's fall into the categories of being new members and r****ds in general.

    3. Lin Fans can understand BB. Lin Only Fans only understand Jeremy Lin. Their entire concept of BB is oriented under Jeremy Lin. When Jeremy Lin is benched, they stop watching the game. Those are the type of garbage that we want burned from CF.

    Now to your totally mind blowing stupid assertion of "reality":

    1. This is a Rockets fan site, especially GARM. This is not the Jeremy Lin Worship Circle. This is not a T-Mac Worship Circle. This is not a Yao Worship Circle. This is a ROCKETS fan site for fans dedicated to the Rockets team. It has nothing to do with something like rights.

    2. Since when is Clutchfans a country? Do you even know what a country is? Do you know what a fan site or BBS is? CF is Clutch's creation. There is no "freedom of speech" only what is allowed by Clutch and his crew and the rules he has in place, which are subject to change per his wishes.

    3. BB is unpredictable, which makes it so hilarious when LOF's are so sure that Lin is a great PG and a future star. **** like that is hilarious. He has not proven he can even sniff stardom. Lin is basically the Tebow of the NBA with the difference being he is actually a decent (not good) player whereas Tebow just plain blows.
     
  9. thesonofsam

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    Lin has skill. Therefore, the Tebow comparison really doesn't work. Maybe they both have hype that outweighs their skills but Lin is a solid player. NOT an All Star but a rotation guy that contribute to a team for a long time. Everything else about Lin fans I agree with you on though.
     
  10. tomato123

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    You should write a book for this and distribute to all rockets fans. Looks like you been studying Lin only Fans deeply.:grin:

     
  11. hard

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    take a mirror and see yourself... you should post this in a new thread and ask Clutch to sticky it. what you think of education makes very clear that is exactly what you are lacking.

     
  12. Stone Cold Hakeem

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    The problem is that:
    #1: Most of the so-called "LOF" aren't really Rockets fans so much as they are Lin fan boys which lead to...
    #2: ...most of the so-called "LOF" can't hold their end of an intelligent discussion of basketball either because they don't understand the game (b/c they started watching when Linsanity hit) or because they are only interesting in protect their image of Jeremy (as opposed to upholding their end of an intelligent conversation).

    You are right, everyone is welcome to love the Rockets and generally speaking, the more the merrier. But when a minority of individuals are not only pumping the GARM full of twilightesque, fan-fic posts about Jeremy but purposefully derailing discussions not pertaining to Jeremy, it brings down the level of discourse here and frustrates posters who are trying to start/carry on intelligent conversations.
     
  13. chenjy9

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    I look in the mirror and I see a true blood Rockets fan. I look at you and people like you and I see nothing but stupidity. Keep trying though; your poor attempts bring great humor to me. :grin:
     
  14. hard

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    agree with every word here.

     
  15. apcgamb24

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    It's not just some of this board who thinks he's not getting enough PT. This was from ESPN Fantasy Basketball:

    "Lin had scored only one point and missed all five of his field-goal attempts in 17 minutes Wednesday.
    Spin: Meanwhile Patrick Beverley played 37 minutes. It's unclear why Lin has hit the pine after a hot streak last week, but it's been two straight games he's failed to crack the 24-minute mark."
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    one does not have to study LOFs deeply to realize that their delusional and psychopathic

    example:
    Yao Ming: Bev should start not Lin.
    LOF: Yao Ming is wrong. He doesn't know anything about BB while we do.
     
  17. Billionzz

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    That is a ridiculous statement. He should be taken out of the game because he didn't make any mistakes.

    The Rockets could only score 19 points in the 4th quarter. When you can only score 19 points in the 4th quarter there is something wrong with your offense. When you can only score 19 points in the 4th quarter and your 3rd leading scorer, 2nd player in assist, and the most consistent player of the year isn't getting any playing time, then there is something wrong with your coach.

    This isn't about Lin, it's about Mchale not knowing how to use the talent he has.
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    LOL this is not really helping LOFs cause
     
  19. Billionzz

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    Anybody with any sense would ask the question that was in the article.

    ""It's unclear why Lin has hit the pine after a hot streak last week, but it's been two straight games he's failed to crack the 24-minute mark""
     
  20. apcgamb24

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    I'm a Lin fan, but not an LOF. And I know Lin sucked that night, but he's been the most consistent player for the Rockets this year, and he's the definite 4th best player on the team. To only play him 17 minutes is kinda ridiculous, really. Especially considering we blew that game away in the 4th. Thought he should've at least gotten 22-24 and if he still sucked then bench him. Just my opinion though.
     

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