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Mchales treatment of Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lid1013, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Billionzz

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    I'm not saying that Lin is Harden (or even close to Harden), but if Harden or even Parsons went 0 for 5 and only played 11 minutes in the first half and 6 minutes in the second half, there would be all kinds of people asking what was going though Mchales mind, and being pissed.

    When a any player has been playing at the level Lin has been playing at this year, I think it's just ridiculous not to give him some playing time.

    Lin didn't play well in the minutes he had but he didn't play horrible. Lin had 4 assist and 0 turnovers in 17 minutes, and that for the most part that was when he was playing with bench players that were sucking. One of the five shots was a two for one 3 that had to be taken quick. Another on of his 3's was at the end of the shot clock when the ball was passed to him. I'm not saying he deserves an excuse for missing those shots, but it's not like he was just jacking up bad shots.

    Besides the bad D that the Rockets played, I think one of the main reasons they lost is because of the ball movement in the second half. The Rockets only scored 16 points in the fourth quarter. Lin needed to be in the game moving the ball, getting assist scoring or whatever, 16 points in a fourth quarter should never happen with the team we have.
     
  2. torocan

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    I wouldn't be too shocked if he eventually developed into a top 6-10 PG. That would be good enough for top 4 in one of the conferences.

    In the current West? Not this year and probably not next.

    After a few FA seasons and 2+ years of development? Who knows?

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...-were-fools-let-jeremy-lin-go-houston-rockets

    If this guy has this opinion, then odds are there are at least a few other executives around the league with a similar opinion, as in it's too early to put a ceiling on him.

    And if that's true, then it would be bordering on hubris to assume that it's completely off the table.

    Top 6-10 is basically a all-star caliber play. So possible? How about I say that it's not impossible...
     
  3. sirbaihu

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    Curry. . . .

    Heck, even the mid ones are hard to sort out with respect to Lin. Conley and Bledsoe have better numbers. . . .
     
  4. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Curry is a freaking stud. He couldn't work on this team, but damn I envy GS at times. I've always maintained that Lin is a mediocre PG, but I don't get the all-star or even superstar label he gets. I don't think it's a race thing. Haddadi and I are both Iranian, do you think I think he's even remotely good? Delusions of grandeur must be fueled by something else.
     
  5. Hak34

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    Now replace Lin in your paragraph with Harden and show us your true colors. Your cool with Harden jacking threes at a 29 percent clip? Not running the O as described by the same coach and cherry picking leaving his team in many many 4 on 5s on the other end because he is a borderline all star? Lol.
     
  6. pnr

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    Why do you think? There was never Yijiansanity or whoever that Asian Lakers guard was. Curry would be a BEAST on this team. He is a pretty good off ball PG. Defense would be bad though.
     
  7. Dementium

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    Lin's numbers are pretty similar to Conley. Of course Conley is better in defense though.

    But honestly, if Lin were playing in the Eastern conference and he kept us his current level of performance, I would say he would be an all star.

    Keep in mind hes posting his current numbers while being a 3rd or 4th option on the team.
     
  8. sirbaihu

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    Well I have been lectured on the difference between Yao (foreign) and Lin (American). But Lin also rocks the Christianity. He plays ironically with the nerdy persona in his videos. . . . He actually makes a commentary on stereotypes. Maybe that's what activates people. He represents an awareness of/defiance of a stereotype. Personally I enjoyed him much more before CF got flooded with his self-righteous fans.

    It's still weird to me how irrelevant Yao is to the Lin fan base. I mean CF likes Yao more than Lin fans do.
     
  9. nebula955

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    wouldn't curry be amazing on our team? his shooting...might well end up best of all time

    Lin IS mediocre right now (mainly because so many point guards are all so good...), but he has shown all-star potential/popularity
     
  10. Midixinormous

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    Over guys like Rose, Deron Williams, Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving, Jennings, MCW, and John Wall?
     
  11. pnr

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    Actually, yes. Lin has been outplaying them all if you can believe it. Just check their stats.
     
  12. pnr

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    Funny you leave out guys like Teague who have been better than Lin. I mean, Kemba Walker... lol
     
  13. Dementium

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    Of those names I think only Kyrie is playing well presently. The rest are struggling in one way or another.

    Rose has been struggling, and MCW has that issue you guys like to harp about so much (i.e. small sample size).
     
  14. torocan

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    Once you get past the first 8 or so PG's, it gets really congested. Especially since the PG's are all playing on different teams with different roles running at different paces.

    And if you're talking just this season so far (small sample of course), then it gets even more confusing.

    As for Deron, he's hard as heck to judge right now as his ankles are shot. Rose is still recovering so people give him a high rated spot on his reputation/history. Whether Rose will be able to reach and maintain his previous form post surgery this season without further re-injury is left to be seen.

    8-15 are probably very close together for the most part, and any of the PG's in that list could easily break out and cement their spots in 9/10.
     
  15. Dementium

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    Doesn't help that PG is a very congested position. The talent pool in that position is fantastic right now.

    Out of curiosity though, if Lin were an SG where would you guys rate him? I keep hearing how thin the position is. How would Lin rank if he were an SG?
     
  16. Spiegel

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    No you haven't. you joined for Yao. You went away when yao retierd and now you'r back because of lin. RG. loool. BTW, nice way to cover you'r fake fandom by putting Olajuwon's shorts on you'r moniker so no one can tell you's fake fandom.

    You bash Harden and the rockets on other sites regulary. Atleast manup and admit you'r agenda.
     
  17. Midixinormous

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    Honestly Lin would rank higher on my SG list than PG. Currently outside of Harden, Afflao, Martin, Ellis, Klay Thompson, Beal and DWade, there arn't really a lot of SGs are putting up better numbers.
     
  18. d12babymamas

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    I actually like Lin, but we have bigger issues than the treatment of one player.
     
  19. tadahito

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    Lin was 1 for 5 FG in 1st half vs Toronto but finished 10 for 17 with 31 points. If McHale benched Lin that game, Rockets would've lost their 3rd straight home game and McHale would've been on the hot seat.

    Lin was 0 for 5 FG vs Dallas but finished....0 for 5 with 1 point.
    I think McHale was correct in not putting Lin back in down the stretch. But McHale's mistake was changing the regular substitution intervals just because the starters were hot in the first few minutes of the game. By doing this, McHale inadvertently made one of his top 4 players a non-factor in the game.
     
  20. Exel

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    There was none, because Harden was not putting in any effort on defense. It was much deserved. Lin was still playing hard on both ends of the court.
     

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