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One happy thought for the day: Yao Ming doesn't suck

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Apr 21, 2003.

  1. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    Since the non-playoff debacle, we've all been ticked off and wanting to trade Rox for toe lint and send Rudy to go fly cargo planes in the Congo. Rewind back to when we won the lotto and knew that the Rox were gonna draft Yao Ming, the goofy 7-5 chinaman with a finesse game.

    Yeah, we were all petrified, horrified and stupified. Even the most optimistic members of these hallowed halls were at least a little scared. A golden opportunity lands in our laps, and we're faced with risking it all, for all or nothing. We now know we hit the jackpot.

    Let's say we didn't win the lotto, and wound up with the pick we were supposed to get . . . I think 6 or 7. What would we have done? We needed a SF. Maybe we take Butler. Mebbe at 15 we take, what, Ely? Haislip? Who knows. Mebbe we package the 6 and 15 pick to move up for Dunleavy. Wow, that would have been tough.

    But that's all if. We now know that Yao is for real. We didn't get into the playoffs because our coach and players aint rocket scientists. Maybe they'll get it done next year, with some tweaking.

    But instead of the Francis and Mobley show next year, it's definitely Yao and Francis. And I'm all for that.
     
  2. dn1282

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    chinaman? wtf?
     
  3. pasox2

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    Well, we could have taken Stodemire.

    Hey, you asked. I love Yao, really!
     
  4. Texas Stoke

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    RileyDog, edit your post man. you seem like a cool guy and i know
    if you knew that the sensitive people who have nothing better to do than get offended would be all over your back, debating you for days, and they'd not be able to sleep, turning over in their beds for nights, just cause of one mans innocent mistake of using a wrong word -- a word for chrisesakes! -- you'd of chose a diffrent word, so man you may want to edit that.
     
  5. Yetti

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    There is nothing wrong in saying the 7' 6'' Goofey Chinaman with the finesse game. That describes Yao Ming to a T. Now it just needs everyone to accept him as he is. If he feels comfortable here, he will develop and want to stay with us!
    He wasnt goofey to me as I knew exactly what to expect,having my own Oriental Family.
     
  6. KeepJuaquin

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    What?!? CHINAMAN?!?

    Man.

    Well...

    Man who cares.

    We still didn't make the playoffs.

    The coaches don't know how to use that 7-6 chinese guy.

    I am very happy that we got him.

    And Thank God we didn't get someone like Mike Dunleavy. HAHA!
     
  7. dn1282

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    it's the offseason...what else is there to do? ;)
     
  8. Fatty FatBastard

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    What's wrong with "Chinaman"?

    For that matter, what's wrong with "Oriental"?

    just curious. I'm not offended by anyone calling me anything.
     
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    Man, you know, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised to see this post sooner or later. This is typical of what America has become, someone is getting all racial in here and nobody notices.

    In answer to ‘whats wrong with Chinaman’, I ask whats wrong with Honky, turbanhead, Wop, NiGXER…so on and so on. Whats wrong is that these are derogatory names that breed nothing but hate.

    This thread should be removed, or at the minimum, the ignorant posts should be edited…
     
  10. dn1282

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    ok...time to go offtopic...

    I get offended because I'm every bit as american as the next guy...so if someone calls me "chinaman" (even though I'm not even of chinese descent) it's like someone calling a black person n*gger.

    and last time I checked...oriental wasn't an ethnicity or a nationality...so someone calling an asian person "oriental" must have the education of a 3rd grader :rolleyes:

    it's okay though...i'm a 20 year old living in california. it's not 1/10 as bad as other states. We might as well be the most liberal and ethnically diverse state so I ain't tripping (too much).
     
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    son of ...!!!
    Did you really come from beijing...


     
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    or you are an idiot...

     
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    Not that I'm looking for a whole history lesson over the word "chinaman", but I'm curious as to why it's a bad word. I can understand the offense for people calling Japanese people "Japs" because of World War II ties where Americans used that word in a hateful manner, or calling asian people "Chinks", but I'm merely curious over the history as why "chinaman" is bad. I personally don't see as any different as calling a dark skinned person black, or a tanned person Mexican, even if that is not their background. My brother in law gets that and he's from Honduras, who aren't very fond of Mexico, yet in Texas, he's always referred to as a mexican, so go figure. I personally don't say those things, and if in doubt just go with calling a person asian, african/american, hispanic, etc. Anyhow I guess I'd like to know the history as to why "chinaman" is bad or whether it's just people's attempts at calling another racists.

    Racism usually is stemmed from ignorance as to what's hateful and what isn't, and not everyone can be fully aware of exactly what words are bad or not. It's like the old car that was sold in the states and as well as many spanish speaking countries. Chevy Nova :p The name of the car sounds fine in English but in Spanish, Nova means doesn't work. It then raised suspicion as to why the car wasn't selling well in spanish speaking countries it was sold in, until they found out what Nova meant in Spanish. I mean who would want a car that advertises as "Chevrolet doesn't work". So before accusing someone of being a racist, atleast enlighten them as to what they said that was racist and provide some historical context as to why it a racist word. If they continue to say the racist word again, then can you proudly say, you've nabbed yourself a racists :p Congratulations! You win the prize! :D
     
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    chinaman is a derogatery term.

    But I don't think RileyDog used it intentionaly.
     
  16. Rileydog

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    OOOOPPPS. I really didn't think Chinaman was a bad term, particularly since I am one. My bad. Don't bang on anyone that has posted saying that it's not a bad term. And goofy, well, he is goofy. I'm a 6-3 chinaman and used to claim that I am the tallest one in Houston. This just reminds me to be more careful with words in a public forum.

    Quickly, oriental is no longer PC. I'm not certain why, but I think it has to do with the fact that the term is associated with the because it's associated with the 30's and 40's where people had an ignorant view of people from the east. We now use geographic/centric terms, like Asian.

    My bad. Let's please leave it at that. Please save the responses to the substance of my post, which is thank our basketball gods for yao freaking ming.
     
  17. dwmyers

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    I wouldn't worry much about it Riley. The problem is, the currently polite term for a person of X race changes all the time. For an african american, it was "colored", then "negro", then "african-american" briefly in the 1960s, then "black", and now it's back to "african-american" again.

    The fashion winds say "chinaman" and "oriental" are offensive. Maybe in a year or two "asian" will be offensive too.

    Dave.
     
  18. Rileydog

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    Thanks. I just don't want to inadvertently offend.

    But the lesson to me and everyone is this - it takes a little care to watch what you say in a public forum. It's worth the time to exercise that reasonable care.

    I'm just amazed that people were up until 2-3 am on the bbs.
     
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    Some ppl here overreact... it's not like he's using it in a derogatory manner, and you can pretty much tell he didn't know. Let me ask you.. did he try to.. uhh.. "breed nothing but hate" when he used the term in a post praising Ming? Sure he probly shouldn't have used it, but damn...
     
  20. fietguy

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    Nova, I was going to leave it, but you know, you really are a byatch...but hey, dont take offense, im not trying to breed any hate on you...im just calling you an ignorant byatch...but im not meaning it to be derogatory...

    And Yo Olliez, you understand that 'Chinaman' is an offensive term, yet you say imply that it is okay but Rileydog didn't use it intentionally?

    Right, and im calling you a dumb spic, or a honky...but hey, please dont take offense, i didn't mean to say it intentionally...yeah whatever...

    And hey Rileydog, who cares if your Chinese, that doesn't mean its right to use offensive terms in this forum, if you choose to use it in your own private ignorant world than thats your business...but by the way, we got a term for you, for all you that know what an uncle tom is, well rileydog is a uncle chan.
     

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