[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

I don't want to argue with anyone on a BBS because I know I can't change nobody's mind.

Just my observations as a fan:

1. The starting lineup never rotated. Even though McHale mentioned he had two starting PGs and he would rotate starters based on match up, blah, blah, blah, the fact is Bev starts from opening day, he is the starter unless he gets hurt.

2. Lin plays 34 mins because he is shooting over 50% and knock down 40+% his 3 pointers and contribute 18pt per game while Bev has his ups and downs. Had he whined and mourned like Omer does, I am sure Lin would have been playing behind Brooks right now. A bad scenario for everyone includes Rox.

I am happy for Lin accepting his role and his performance makes PG controversy quieting down. But I just want to point out the obvious: how he and Asik handling the same situation differently created two totally opposite outcomes. Which outcome benefits the Rox? If you can't tell the difference, and you don't appreciate Lin's action, I have nothing more to say to you. Let us just stop arguing.

Also, I absolutely support Asik and understand his frustration. But I think he should have handled the situation better. Rox management has no loyalty to its players and treat everyone as "asset". He already knows that. IMO, He should request the trade in private and keep playing hard on the court. It is for his benefit because it will be easier for Rox the trade him.

 

1) We are assuming it because Lin said he knew it was coming and also because no coach makes the decision to bench the starting PG without having thought about it for some time. That isn't a on the whim decision. Also when Bev was hurt and Lin was playing great as soon as Bev was ready to go he put him back in the starting lineup. Why change something that is working fine? Also the comments McHale makes about both players. He says Bev never makes mistakes whereas with Lin he describes his as a young player. He is write about Lin being a young player but really? Bev never makes mistakes? That definitely isn't true and Bev is an even younger player than Lin when it comes to NBA experience. I am not saying that we know for sure when what decision was made all I am saying that it is unfair to dismiss someone's assumptions where there are facts showing that they could be write.
2) You are right he doesn't care about saving face McHale is pretty stubborn.
3) If Lin was playing poorly he wouldn't be getting as much playing time and yet Bev plays poorly and he continues to start? It is a bit funny because Bev is getting the same treatment this year that Lin was getting last year as a starter. Not closing games at times because of inconsistent play etc. Why start Bev if you aren't going to give him a chance to fully develop and learn how to close games & develop? Makes little sense.
4) Lin also said that he talked to his agent about his situation and was disappointed with the loss of his starting spot and said he wants to start. Does that sound like a player who is fine with it?

 

I am going to need a quote on that.

Do you understand the minutes or the concept of 6th man? Beverley playing poorly and Beverley starting has no correlation whatsoever. McHale wants to use Lin as a 6th man, and his minutes reflect that. If a player plays poorly, their minutes are reduced.

Stop putting so much emphasis on starting or coming off the bench. It's annoyingly superficial. Would you be fine if Lin played 15 minutes a game but started?

Need a quote on this too.

 

I am a Lin fan. I don't like your tone of alienating him. Please use your brain when you try to support him.

 

You could have said everything without this. Please, I beg you!!

 

Why? He speaks the truth.

 

If anything, how badly Omer has handled this situation has made people appreciate what hes doing for the team more.

 

1) McHale said this in one of his post game chats this preseason after Bev played well
2) One of the houston beat writers reported that he talked to his agent and his agent said that he should remember that a few years ago he was heading out of the NBA and ESPN NY were the ones who reported that he was dissapointed that he lost his starting spot and that he wants to start. I am not finding these quotes for you. You have to find them yourself. They were posted on this board in several places. You can take my word for it if you want to.
3) I once again wan't to reiterate that my issues here isn't Lin should be starting. It is don't dismiss other people for assuming that the decision was made a while ago because there is evidence that it was. I am not saying I a write and you are wrong just saying that Ivanny has valid points and dismissing it as superficial is unfair. Also Bev imo needs a fair run at starting so we can really see what he is capable of that includes learning how to finish games even when he is playing poorly. Houston isn't winning a title this year we are still a considerable ways off and very soon we are going to have to make decisions as to who we are going to keep as PG. Let Bev get as much of an opportunity to show what he is worth.

 

Omer should be a sign of how important starting is to a player. Despite how both players are handling the situation, I'm sure Lin is equally upset about being benched. I know clutch and some of the old timers here says it doesn't matter but I respectfully disagree. Omer is getting out and the rockets risks losing Lin to free agency next season. If he continues at this pace going into his prime, the rockets lose big. All of this for a point guard that should never be a starter. Rockets needs to learn that good players don't want to come off the bench or else they will seek their fortunes somewhere else like asik now or later like Lin.

 

He has played just as good if not better as a starter instead of coming off the bench. Average higher PPG and assist as a starter. Lin is playing well because of himself, not because he moved to the bench.

 

Nothing against you, but I would prefer an actual link. Things could always be taken out of context, so you may have mistaken what McHale said and/or what Lin said.

 

I don't know why people think bench = demoted.

he's still playing in crunch time and just getting close to the minutes as before. Rockets are just spreading our talents throughout the game to prevent any time of being stagnant. If Bev was in with our bench, that would be a horrible looking lineup and would struggle offensively.

 

Being professional Lin will keep quiet and play as well as he can whenever he is in the game, but being human he will leave Houston when his contract is up. I don't think he feels appreciated here.

 

I'd like to see that "Bev never makes mistakes" quote as well. Not buying it.

 

I read that statement. I vouch for the poster.

 

Exactly

 

He statement is far stretched. He cannot generalize all Houston fans based on a few or some. As Jeremy is playing well, more and more of them are liking him. What do you want to achieve by saying Houston fans don't appreciate him? Are you supporting Jeremy or are you trying to unload your anger. Jeremy is playing well. He will get more status by his performance. So I suggest everyone just sit back and enjoy. Please don't keep fighting.

 

excerpt from an ESPN article by Ian O'Connor, http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...-were-fools-let-jeremy-lin-go-houston-rockets

As much as McHale tried to sell Lin's move to the second string as a mutual agreement reached after conversations with all parties and point guards involved, a source close to the situation said Lin felt blindsided by the loss of his job.

"It was a blow to Jeremy, a big blow," the source said, "because he definitely wanted to start. But he rebounded pretty quickly and realized this would allow him some time away from Harden and more freedom with the ball."

After Hakeem Olajuwon raved about Lin over the summer and called his potential tandem with Howard "very deadly" during workouts in Aspen, Colo., people close to the point guard wondered why McHale didn't make it clear publicly that Lin wasn't so much beat out by Beverley, a meat-and-potatoes grinder, as he was liberated from Harden's ball-dominating ways.​

The Rockets or McHale never announced that Jeremy is the 6th man either. The minutes he is getting now is the result of his current production.

 

Who cares, stop whining.

DD

 

Jeremy's me-first thoughts are very troubling.