ClutchFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Sixers 11/13/2013

No joke.
Casspi and Garcia were blazing in the preseason but have been MIA since the games started counting.

The solace is that it's still early and this team is still in the precess of figuring things out. This gives them time to eventually come around.
This team is in trouble if the bench remains a one man show.

 

Very true about killer instinct, but it could be true he might be gassed though and opted to pass. But I def wanted him to be more agg and stop dumping it to DH, but it could be Mchale's orders. hard to say.

 

Are you referring to me

 

Is this not a double standard too? What if Harden's TO's were also caused by no calls?

 

The team is hurting from the health stuff. No Harden is huge. Also hasn't been getting anything out of a flu-suffering Garcia.

Also, the 3 point shooting issues from pretty much everyone but Lin really hurts. With all those super close games, a couple more made 3s a game would have made all the difference in the world. They are getting open shots but missing them and even turning these open shots down way to often.

I am smelling a David Wesley/Jon Barry type trade coming. Just need a little more balance to the roster and a few confident veteran shooters who are just not afraid to fire them up. I keep on thinking that Steve Novak would be huge for this team. Maybe Hedo if he's got anything left in the tank.

Of course, the big trade asset is Omer. Not sure how he's feeling now or how much he'll even play, but not particularly worried about him losing value. Sucks if he's feeling in the dumps. Teams know what he is already and he's proven that he can protect the paint and rebound for 30 minutes a game on a team that needs a center.

 

Quit ask for that. Lin needs to do more work to prove himself compared to other players. It has always been and will always be this way for him.

Let's neglect the trolls and have some good-faith discussion.

 

Dude that would have been considered a good game for Harden too. He's not so good where 34 and 12 is hohum. Lin played great if not flawed. I would take it any day.

 

Anderson was on fire. Lin did as much as he could on defense. The effort was there, but great offense always beats good defense.

 

are some of you guys being serious or just trolling??

are people really pinning the loss on a guy that just went 34-12-5 on all of 19 shots??!!! think about that line for a minute. this is the kind of numbers that made people on this site throw out the label "superstar" when it comes to harden or any other player. but when it comes to lin, some of you feel the need to discredit him by pointing to his defense and TO? defense on a guy that couldn't miss no matter how many hands were in his face? we ran into a james anderson that probably had his best shooting night in his life, and a lot of the shots he made were well contested. nothing you can do there.

i mean, seriously, without lin playing like harden tonight, there wouldn't have been a game to even discuss about.

and no, i'm not comparing lin and harden - if that's your takeaway from this post, i ain't even gonna bother responding to that.

 

What's wrong with Rockets 3 pointers? Not counting Lin, we were only 23% from the 3 point line tonight, 6/26.
A team heavily depends on 3s like the Rockets can't win a game with the whole team bricking 3s like this.

 

If you play good man-to-man defense on him, that won't happen. He is not MJ of Kobe. I just hope McHale starts going to his bench and give Brewer some playing time. The only reason McHale stuck with Lin was because he was the only reliable PG option and he was hot. He ignored his turnovers and bad defense thinking Lin may could stay hot and close the game out. I guess that is one thing you can be mad at McHale for. I pray Harden can play against the Knicks.

 

You miss my point.
Lin was spectacular on offense for most of the night. He shot extremely well as was the adept passer he usually is.
However is game was far from flawless and certainly not without blame.
Lin's turnovers and putrid defense were only part of the reason for this loss, but they were a part. Lin deserves his fair share of blame, no different than anyone else on the team.

My comment was for those who refuse to hold Lin accountable for any of his shortcomings. Especially those who rail loudest against other members of the team for the very same faults.

 

Well, there's the good Harden from some stretches last season, then there's the bad Harden from this season.

Good Harden might have won the game tonight; bad Harden would have iso'ed for six straight possessions to end the game resulting in one layup, two TO->fast break->dunks on the other end, and maybe 0.8 assists on three passes with fewer than 3 seconds left on the clock, while some fans drool over how pretty the 1 layup was and lament how nobody could make a bailout shot to help Harden out.

 

Thanks. That's a good read.
I would argue if we put someone with more energy in his body on JA, we might be able get him annoyed

 

I think one thing also that we have to take into account in this game....the crowd really got into it in the 4th qtr. It really gave the sixers a big lift even tho both teams looked really tired at the start of the 4th. We should have not let them come close in the 4th but they hit some tough/lucky shots which gave them the momentum and got the crowd going and from there it was hard to stop them. I still think we are better than the result, but a loss is a loss, as long as there are positives in the game, you take it and then move on to the next game

 

I have seen enough Rockets games and honestly believe that McHale is not a champainship calipler coach. Sooner or later, we will need to make coaching change. Let's do it sooner rather than later.

 

That's exactly right. Lin didn't have a bad game defensively, it wasn't like Anderson was always beating him and Lin couldn't keep up with him. Anderson just had a great game and hit tough shots.

It really makes me wonder why fans aren't happy to have Lin on the team. What a great player to have, I'm glad he is a Rocket. It shouldn't be to hard to just admit the he had a great game and if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have even been in the game.

 

I think it's a product of Casspi and Garcia both being streaky shooters. At least one of them has to be productive on three pointers during every game, but the Rockets have had unfortunate luck on that end. I just hope it doesn't continue. Parsons needs to not quadruple pump-fake on every single shot he takes.

Who would've thought last season that Lin of all people would be the best 3 point shooter this season?

 

Don't worry...We always beat the Knicks right?:grin:

 

I'm guessing you didn't see what I was responding to.
The guy said Lin had a "fantastic" game.
I disagreed and illustrated why.

Would you consider that a "fantastic" game?