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Rookie Power Ranking: Stats, then Vote

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DavidS, Apr 15, 2003.

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Who will be ROY?

  1. Yao

    295 vote(s)
    77.4%
  2. Amare

    21 vote(s)
    5.5%
  3. Co-Rookies

    65 vote(s)
    17.1%
  1. walls

    walls Member

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    I'm pretty sure if you held a "redraft" at the end of the year, every-single-team in the NBA (with the possible exception of the Lakers) would take Yao with the 1st pick.
     
  2. lost_elephant

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    maybe even the lakers? yao at center and shaq at pf? solves their problems at pf. and gives them the MDE of the future? that would be sickeing
     
  3. silvercatt

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    does any one know who is the oldest player ever to come out of high school?
     
  4. Charles V

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    I dont even know where to start with this. #1, thank you for predicting a Suns victory over the Spurs. #2, I'm not so sure Penny's performance put the Suns over the top. Over the last 6 games, Penny averaged 9 points, Amare averaged 13.6 points, Joe Johnson averaged 16.8 points. Penny was important, but I wouldnt put him over Amare or even JJ during Aprils run. #3, I do have the right to my opinion - even if it differs from yours.

    I've already said I'm not here to bash Yao. He had a great rookie season, he just isnt my pick...and just as many people agree with me as disagree.

    I wholeheartedly disagree. Go to any Suns board and ask that same question. The Suns are very, very pleased with Amare - and I dont think for one moment that they would trade him for Yao.
     
  5. walls

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    Well duh.

    I suppose if I go into a bar in Sacramento and ask random folks who is better Lakers or Kings I wonder what response I'd get :rolleyes:



    The teams draft the players, not the fans. And believe me, every team in the league knows we got the pick of a lifetime.
     
  6. walls

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    I say with the exception of the Lakers because Shaq is too proud and would not be moved from his position to adjust for Yao.

    Plus Amare is a better 4 than Yao, just like Yao is a better 5 than Amare.

    The Lakers need a 4 more than a 5, you do the math.
     
  7. Charles V

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    Then I guess that explains why the folks in Houston are so enamoured with Yao. ;)

    Again, I can assure you that the Suns are very, very happy with Amare...and I imagine that the same holds true for the Rox and Yao.

    Like I said previously, if there was ever a time for a co-ROY, this is it. I know who I like, but that doesnt matter. It's who the writers like. As far as I can tell, the votes are split down the middle. With the exception of Dan Patrick and David Dupree who voted for Caron Butler? :rolleyes:

    Anyway, good luck.
     
  8. DavidS

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    You summed up my argument for me!

    Amare is a better 4.

    Yao is a better "basketball player."

    ft, 3-pts, blks, asts, pts, rbs...etc...
     
  9. MFW2310

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    Hey TMan I find it very interesting that you make up crap like this without answering my questions. Let me repeat:

    DO YOU STILL THINK YAO BEAT AMARE OUT IN POLLS BECAUSE HOUSTON FANS CHEATED IN THEM?

    Btw, if you are gonna compare Amare's FG% to Yao's FG% there's a huge difference, 2% diff in FG% means over 50 players in the league between them, why didn't you state that? And I suppose that 10-15 feet shots under double/triple team is easier to make than dunks when left wide open under the basket. Face, everybody in this league can say all this want but what it comes down to is teams actually plan against Yao, THEY ACTUALLY DEFEND AGAINST YAO, and they don't do the same against Amare, even now. Try throwing your logic against that. Or better yet go troll on another board.
     
  10. MFW2310

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    Moron, all I'm gonna say is I'm not even gonna bother posting all the people that said Yao's ROY/future best player in the league. I'm sure the Yao only fans here would love to redirect your attention to ************.com.

    Btw, who's word would rather take? Iverson's or Shaq's, MJ's or Kobe's, Jerry West's or Popovic's. If you think only Houston fans think Yao's the best rookie YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T TURNED ON THE TV OR READ THE PAPER IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS.
     
  11. MFW2310

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    That's y a o m i n g m a n i a .com
     
  12. Htownhero

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    I know this wasn't directed to me, bur I'll answer anyway. No I don't think Yao won in every poll because of cheating Houston fans. I think he won the poll in the Pheonix paper because of cheating Houston fans though. I also think it was L-A-M-E. Do you disagree, or are you OK with rigging a poll so our hometown boy will win?
     
  13. Charles V

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    Way to state your case. Call me names, and forget to do your homework.

    - Jerry West

    - (Air) Jordan


    For the third time, Yao had a great season - but Amare is the rookie of the year.
     
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    I don't even know where to start with some of the things you have typed lately. FRom Mfw2310's "Yao actually gets defended and Amare doesn't", how far from the truth and reality can you actually go to try and prove your point? Even Kurt Rambis was defened every time down court. If you were never defended mfw2310, even you could have an outside shot at Wilt's scoring records.
    To Johnty's random thoughts ''Vlade's comment was valid" and Knobody else's is? Why because Vlade supports Ming and the others don't?
    and the classic "I don't understand your reasoning. Yao is obviously more efficient than Amare and then you try to downplay the point by saying the difference is not that big. yet you repeated again and again that the Suns won only ONE game more than us while just about everybody agrees that Marbury, not Amare, is the main reason the suns are in the playoff. Amare did nothing special during suns' run for the playoff. it's Marbury, not Amare, who lifted his game and got his team over the hump. so your argument Amare deserves ROY more because the suns made the playoff is not valid." You try to up-play the minor differrence's in their performance efficiency by sayin how "obvious" it is and downplay the playoff situation, saying it is only ONE game, but by using your logic of the differrence in somthing so minor being huge, you prove my theory. That one game is the differrence between watching and still playing. You say Amare was no big differrence, but he and Yao had the same chance to get there at the end and Amare was consistent while Yao's game was going straight south in the playoff drive.
     
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    that isn't my logic. it's your logic. my logic is both differences are minor as far as ROY is concerned so you shouldn't credit the playoff situation more while dismissing the efficiency argument. that's why i think you were NOT being fair!

    as for the other's comments vs. Vlade's, yes, I don't think other's comments are valid. for examply, Kobe said "it's not even close" but he didn't explain how so? how do you expect me to be convinced? i think the only valid point they can make basketball wise is Amare is more agreesive while Yao is soft. but that doesn't make Amare a better player right now.
     
  16. MFW2310

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    Absolutely, I agree, which is why you won't catch me hitting the refresh button on nba.com. But if you read my post you know exactly what TMan suggested, that Yao won the polls cuz of cheating Htown fans. Now if you believe that then I won't bother arguing with you.
     
  17. MFW2310

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    Forgot to do my homework? You want me to pull out what JW and MJ said about Yao? I can tell you right now it's a lot more flattering than what they said about Amare, but like I said in my earlier post I won't bother, you can find them yourself quite easily.

    As for Amare being ROY, don't make me laugh. It should be Yao as ROY or @ least co-ROY, not Amare ROY. I'd love to see your trolling ass back here after Yao wins.
     
  18. MFW2310

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    Me being far from the truth? Oh that's rich. I don't claim to watch every Suns game but I watch enough and I can tell you Amare is not even being defended close to the same way Yao is being defended. Especially considering I've seen plenty of times when he was left WIDE OPEN UNDER THE BASKET, especially early in the seaon. But I suppose that's just white noise in the background for you.

    I am asking myself why I am arguing with a moron who thinks Htown fans rigged every national poll or that #1 picks are supposed to come in and simply dominate. Btw, exactly which polls did Amare lead before Rox fans took over, I can count 2 at most 3, care to list them?
     
  19. DavidS

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    None of this matters...

    In the end, Amare will be a dominant power-forward.

    Yao will be dominate the league (once he gains strength).
     
  20. ILuvEddie33

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    They should just be Co-Rookies!!!! Like that everybody will just be happy!!!:D
     

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