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We should trade Kelvin Cato

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Newgirl, Apr 17, 2003.

  1. SwoLy-D

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    YES
    YES
    NEVER
     
  3. KeepJuaquin

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    Cato should be traded.

    Yao will be playing more and more.

    Just not enough playing time for him.

    But I do think that Cato would prosper in the East as a starter...maybe

    All the trades are good.

    Lamar Odom sounds nice.

    And Toni Kukoc does too.

    Michael Redd yes.

    Sam Cassell yes.
     
  4. BuckeyeRocketFan

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    I'd like to do something along the lines of cato, mobley and griffin for brand and miller. I did it on realgm and they had to throw in zhizhi, rooks, ely and we had to throw in morris to make it work capwise. We probably also would have to throw in some picks or something. But you get the gist of it.

    Why would the clips do it? They are probably going to lose brand and miller anyways. They get a replacement for kandi, a good 2 guard and a replacement for brand. That and they are dumb.

    No question as to why we would do it.
     
  5. hikanoo49

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    Keepjuaquin,

    Some one said that you were related to LiTtley1521. Is that true? If so, can you tell him/her to come and visit us again.


    Thanks!

     
  6. Woofer

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    Hey Kenny Thomas improved his shooting percentage to 48% this year. Oh wait, that was *after* he was traded...

    I think Cato's a great backup. Untradeable. We should try him at PF, although it means MT or someone else would have to spell Ming cause Cato racks up the fouls like no one's business.
     
  7. kubli9

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    Two moves the rockets should make, trade Cato and Glen Rice to Miami for Brian Grant, and trade Cuttino and Griffin to Toronto for Alvin Williams and another player, maybe Mo Peterson or a draft pick. That way, Grant could start at PF and also backup Yao at C opening up big minutes for a 6th man role for MoT. Steve would have a guard in the backcourt that compliments his game better. Resign Posey and pick up a couple of good outside shooters like Jon Barry and Veshon Lenard in free agency. I know it's a lot and may be a stretch, but with these moves the team would get tougher, have better shooters, and have more of a veteran presence on the team.
     
  8. Woofer

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    Stole my thunder! What if she's a man, baby?
     
  9. Newgirl

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    BJ, I respect your opinion but I honestly think that wouldn't work. I don't think Cato would be way more effective than EG or Taylor at PF alongside Yao (our rebounding might become a little better but his lack of jumper would hurt the overall effectiveness and please don't tell me that he would magicially find a jumper this summer). If Cato has little use for us (not because of his inability but more of a result of Yao's emergence as 35-40 mpg player), move him to upgrade other areas (especially when his value is never higher than before now). We shouldn't try hard to find "out of position" minutes for him just because he's paid 7-8m a year.
     
  10. Da Wink

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    Hmm.. I think I like the idea of "kubli9". Cato is expendable at this time. As for looking for a backup center, can we sign ZO? He would be a nice backup for Yao. He will not need full minutes to play which I think will not greatly affect his health conditions. What do ya think guys? But I'm not sure if we or how can we sign him...
     
  11. laughdog

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    why not keep cato and trade ming? i saw more value in cato than in yao this season. i believe if cato had had been given more minutes we could have made the playoffs. unfair to cato. ming soft and sucks ...
     
  12. hikanoo49

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    Please go back to where ever you came from...
     
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    Good point!! I agree completely. The difference between Cato's 10 minutes of action and any MLE center is relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

    However, if we apply the excess savings to upgrade PG, PF, we can definitely make major improvements. Not just from a statistical standpoint but potentially (most likely) a chemistry one as well.

    What I find bewildering is the rarity of Kelvin Cato type players. He has a solid NBA body but very few basketball skills. Granted, he is a hard worker (at least this year).

    You would figure that dozens of big guys in the CBA or college can do what he does. Rebound, play d, hustle for lose balls, foul, alley oop once in a while etc.

    Sorry for the side thought but these guys are playing for millions. If I were 6"10, 260 and in the CBA, I can assure you that I will get every rebound even if I had to claw and bite my way to the ball.

    :p
     
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    I was more than satisfied with the inspired play of Cato this year. I say we keep him unless we're offered a deal we can't refuse. The Oop to Cato and him destroying the rim is a thing of beauty.
     
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    i'm from Singapore ...
     
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    Cato is the best back up center in the league. Period. I know thats not saying a whole lot, but when Yao takes a breather we still need somebody thats gonna hustle for rebounds and loose balls. I also think Cato has been the victim of too many high expectations, with him being the one to fill the shoes of Hakeem Olajuwon, thankfully it was only temporarly. But Cato seems to play his best coming off the bench in limited minutes. Its almost like he knows he can afford to go all out without having to worry about getting in foul trouble and other things. That being said, I dont think Cato should be traded unless there is a deal that is too good to pass up.
     
  17. tch

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    Please do not forget,
    Because of Cato, Mr. Mean only gave ming 20 minutes...
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    Newgirl,

    I respect your opinion too. But we post up one guy over and over. That's our offense. When Mo and Yao are in together it's a waste. And when Griffin and Cato (or whomever you'd suggest taking his place) are in together, it's an offensive disaster. We have an offense that posts up the hot man. Whoever's hot gets shots and if we have another offensive big man in, he just gets tired running the floor. Our offense is about going to one hot post up player and passing out when the double comes down. There's no point at all in having two post up players in at the same time. Cato plays the Rodman role in this scenario (whether with Yao or Mo), which, as we all know, worked out pretty well for Rodman. Works for Wallace too. We don't need to have offensive studs at every position.

    The point isn't to find him minutes because he has a big contract. The point is to find him minutes because his type is so hard to replace in today's NBA. Who do you see picking up his rebounds? Or his blocks. Do you really think upgrading Mobley with someone like Eddie Jones covers all you lose by letting Cato go? Even so much that you throw in extras? If you do, I'm saying you're crazy.

    Todd MacCullough makes about what Cato makes. Consider the state of the league today and what big men make and be happy we've got an extra. We can afford him too. We just need to use him a little more to let the investment pay off.

    I repeat, I'd consider moving him for an aggressive big man, but how many are available? That's right. Very few. That's why we keep him. And that's why we USE him.
     
  19. GATER

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    Best backup Center in the league?

    A strong argument could be made for:
    Malik Rose
    Kevin Willis
    Sabonis
    Adonal Foyle
    Mehmet Okur
    Scott Pollard
    Shawn Bradley (when LaFrentz starts)
    Nazr Mohammed
    Lo Wright
    Jerome James
    Jeff Foster

    Perhaps you need to rethink this statement?
     
  20. JayZ750

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    You're right, but Kevin Willis. Scott Pollard? He played 23 games this year.
     

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