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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Apr 17, 2003.

  1. No Worries

    No Worries Member

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    and donate $$$ to save innocent Iraqi children from the effects of the war. Send your tax deductible $$$ to

    UNICEFusa.org
    333 East 38th Street
    New York, NY 10016

    and make check payable to: U.S. Fund for UNICEF

    or call 1-800-FOR-KIDS (1-800-367-5437)

    or online at http://www.unicefusa.org/

    Remember the fewer innocent children who die after the war, the better Bush looks!!!
     
  2. Mulder

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    Wow...

    That has to be the CRAPPIEST reason I have EVER heard to help out a worthwhile organization.

    Please make me feel stupid by telling me that you were being sarcastic.

    Please.
     
  3. No Worries

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    Yes. Just poking a little fun at the conservatives on the board who had a new found love for the Iraqi people before the war. It is time to show them the money :)

    BTW, I contributed $100 to this worthy cause.
     
  4. Chance

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    bug off.
     
  5. JohnnyBlaze

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    Who the **** cares what No_Worries thinks?

    This is a good cause. I am matching his 100 bucks.
     
  7. No Worries

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    Hey Chance! Did you know that a $50 donation can provide 1000 packets of oral rehydration salts to treat diarrheal dehydration from contaminated water supplies (a leading cause of death among children).

    Shoot with the $$$ that John and I donated 4,000 children can have their lifes saved!!!
     
  8. giddyup

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    I guess that means that you didn't give a crap about them... that makes this diarrhea rescue idea of yours pretty funny!
     
  9. Oski2005

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    Giving up $100 bucks to make a joke seems pretty far fetched.


    Well, I made a tiny contribution, but now my Pulltab CD fund is empty.
     
  10. Woofer

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    This money doesn't do any good until we secure the country. Since we either don't have enough troops to do it or don't consider it a priority, this is what's going to happen to your donations to charity (it's going to sit outside the country because we won't permit them in):
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,939137,00.html

    Unless they are Christians coming to convert the heathen, and then, there's nothing we can do to prevent them from coming in:
    http://slate.msn.com/id/2081432/
     
  11. No Worries

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    giddyup, I bet you didn't know this, but a $45 donation can provide measles vaccines for 45 Iraqi children.!!! Think of the good that will do.
     
  12. giddyup

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    THe war is over; I don't care about Iraqi children anymore.... :D
     
  13. No Worries

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    Donate now to support UNICEF's work for the children of Iraq

    The big picture

    “The taking of a child's life is never an acceptable cost of war.”

    —Carol Bellamy, UNICEF Executive Director
    in a statement on Iraq, Amman, Jordan and New York, 7 April 2003

    The children of Iraq are caught up in war for the third time in 20 years. Although a clear picture of the impact of the fighting on civilians has yet to emerge, UNICEF is deeply concerned by the deteriorating conditions facing children in the country.

    Almost half of Iraq’s total population is aged under 18. Even before the conflict began, many children were highly vulnerable to disease and malnutrition. One in four children aged under five is chronically malnourished. One in eight die before their fifth birthday.

    Overcoming extraordinarily difficult circumstances, UNICEF staff are working now to help meet the needs of Iraq’s children. Since the war began, UNICEF has provided food, blankets and other essential supplies to some of the country’s most vulnerable children. Well before the war started, however, UNICEF was preparing to mount a rapid response to meet the humanitarian needs of children and women.

    Over the last several months, UNICEF has organized immunization campaigns and shipped in nutritional items to Iraq to boost the strength of Iraqi children and improve their chances of survival in the event of war. UNICEF has pre-positioned thousands of tonnes of relief supplies in Iraq and neighbouring countries, including high-protein biscuits, essential medicines, water purification supplies and other life-saving emergency items.

    Iraq's situation is unique in many ways. An eight-year war with Iran in the 1980s and the Gulf War in 1991 greatly damaged Iraq's infrastructure. The country has been under comprehensive United Nations sanctions for 12 years. However, the Oil for Food Programme (OFFP), passed by the Security Council in late 1996, did help to reduce the impact of sanctions on the population by allowing the Iraqi government to sell oil and use the revenue to purchase humanitarian supplies.

    These efforts stopped the humanitarian situation from deteriorating, but did not greatly improve conditions for most Iraqis. This is partly because revenue has not been sufficient too comprehensively rehabilitate the country’s infrastructure.

    UNICEF has been working to improve the situation of children and women in Iraq since 1952 and has had a permanent presence in the country since 1983. It plays a leading role in helping to fulfil the fundamental rights of children and women, working in the areas of rights-based advocacy, education, health, nutrition, water and environmental sanitation, child protection and women’s rights.
     
  14. Woofer

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    If you really want to help an Iraqi humanitarian mission, you should go in and restore the peace, since our military there seems incapable of doing this, even with Tommy Franks declaring *victory* in hand . Either they don't have enough boots on the ground to do it, or it's not a big priority, since they are already sending troops home and standing down other troops from ready to deploy status.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2958447.stm
     
  15. ROXTXIA

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    If Bush gave a crap about Iraqi children, he shouldn't have lobbed missiles at them.

    Perhaps the last reason we conquered Iraq was to save its people from a tyrant. Oil; make an example of some country to force others to kowtow to us; et al.

    The better part of a million people died in Rwanda and Burundi and what did we do? Sent a couple of CARE packages, maybe.

    Sorry to say it, but children are suffering all over the world. It's a horrible thing. It's just that we can make ourselves look like heroes for helping those who live in Iraq.

    People act like they've never read about or seen hungry/displaced/bombed people until this Iraq business. Maybe they haven't, at that.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Right, he would let Saddam murder them?
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Or he might protect the hospitals where they were put by the U.S. instead of the oil ministry.
     
  18. X-PAC

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    If you have a better source of revenue used to rebuild Iraq than that of oil revenue then please explain. If we allowed Saddam and his cronies to burn all the oil sources it would result in an environmental and economical calamity which only harms Iraq down the road. Most of the oil rigs lay on the outer reaches of the more densely populated towns and cities potentially harboring great numbers of Saddam loyalists.

    http://www.ctnow.com/news/nationworld/iraq/chi-0303090333mar09,0,5524590.story

    As for the hospitals, I'm sure if we had enough soldiers on the ground and secured enough territory without placing soldiers in harms way in the much warned urban regions it would had been possible. But our soldiers are fighting a war. Protecting museums from looters whom many claim were professionals who even had keys to the place would had resulted in U.S. casualties. I wish these places could had been protected during the heavy fighting and looting but I'm not sure how feasible it could had been.
     
  19. ROXTXIA

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    Oversimplified, as usual.

    I will shed no tears for Saddam and believe that he is, yes, a bad man.

    But we build up certain dictators into Beezelbub to justify our invasion of their country, and sit idly by in other situations. Of course we can say, "Because those other situations don't involve us." So we make our vested interest in a situation look that much more urgent. And it wasn't tough to sell America on Iraq.

    It can be easier when you have a face to focus on, an individual to turn your anger toward, things are so much simpler. It helps the media coverage as well.

    Why don't we ask certain questions? Why don't we ask, Why were so many of the 9/11 terrorists from Saudi Arabia? Why do we ignore the fact that the Saudis (and I'm not just talking about the bin Ladens) have given hundreds of millions to Al Qaeda, but we are still unable to directly connect Iraq to 9/11? Why do we sell jet fighters to the Saudis?

    Prince Bandar comes smiling to shake Bush's hand at Crawford ranch. Yes, welcome, good buddy. Me Tarzan, you Jane. Saudis good. Iraqis bad.

    But Saudi Arabia has so much money invested in our economy that if we alienated them----them, being far more guilty of attacking us than the Iraqis---our economy would take a huge hit.

    All of this being so complicated, we'll just teach the Iraqis a lesson and see if it scares everyone else into submission. I hope trickle-down justice works better than trickle-down economics.

    By the by, whomever we install in Iraq will go the way of the Shah of Iran.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    I agree that the administration made a mistake by not putting enough troops on the ground. I think they were caught off- gaurd a little bit by all the rioting.
     

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