He had guys like Hedo and Jameer VERY actively looking for him with timed entry passes and also plenty of pnr. Ofc that was before Shaq and other former HoF bigs flaming him for being what he is. Now he is trying to be like them and in that aspect failing hard..
I think people expect an immediate improvement even after just one summer with Olajuwon and that is unrealistic. It took me at least 6 months to become comfortable with learning the dream shake and another 6 months on top of that for it to become instinctive. I'm not going to say that my personal experience with learning post moves would even come close to what it is in the pros but I can sort of guess how difficult it would be. It was difficult for me even with a background in soccer. You start off with learning 1 basic move and its "counter". At the beginning of the learning process, things are going to be mechanical because the muscle memory of the "move" is not there yet. As it does become more instinctive you will find that it becomes more comfortable and you can really do it much quicker. The problem with when you are in the mechanical learning stage, your brain is focusing on completing the "move" and is less aware of the double team coming and also where to hit your open man. Basically you don't have much time to process alot of information. Now it takes time to perfect just 1 move much less its counter, while Hakeem had a whole bag of "shakes". So oppositing NBA teams can very easily scout and stop it if your repertoire is limited. I really don't think Dwight had that much time to learn that much with all that was going on this past summer not to mention he had to also work on his free throws. The only time you will get better at learning the post moves if you keep scrimmaging against other players, and I think he didn't get to do that enough. My conclusion is you might only begin to see solid improvement from Dwight much later on in the season or even the next season. NBA players don't really get a chance to improve that much over the season and the tools you bring to training camp will usually be the tools you are stuck with.
True, but when I mean scrimmage its more about learning the spacing in a team environment. Having Omer will definitely be a bonus for the 1v1 faceup. You may wonder why I talk about spacing, its because the better you are at this the more efficient you are at utilising the space to attack. If you watch how efficient Hakeem is at the baseline spin move he didn't actually needs that much space in between his defender and the help defender coming to complete move. While with Dwight it was more difficult and he requires more space to operate. You will notice that the path he takes for his baseline spin sometimes makes him end up slightly behind the backboard. BTW you can really see that the team has improved with Hakeem teaching the entire team. In the game against the Jazz, Parsons did a similar move to the basic baseline spin and scored a bucket. You can see it on the NBA website where they show the recap of the game.
For me the Dream Shake actually just a platform with alot of moves plugged into it. For instance if you know the Jordan fadeaway or the Kareem Skyhook you can plug it into the Dreak Shake. A good analogy will be the Dream Shake is like the motherboard. Your up and under is CPU, Fadeaway like GPU and the hook shot is the hard drive. Basically everything can be plugged into the motherboard platform to make it better.
dwight is just mediocre on the offensive end so we can't keep dumping him the ball if he can't put it in the basket, or score a bucket outta every 3, 4 attempts. Take what the D gives you.
Post game in general isn't pretty. You got too many people wanting to see 3 pt shots. Him getting the ball the down low is what opening up everything for our shooters. But hey man, keep thinking what the lakers where thinking, "he's just out there for rebounds".
He should concentrate on defensive & offensive rebounds. Also he should do more PnR. If he does what he is best at then this team can't be stopped. Plus Howard would get 20+ rebounds, still 15+ points with high FG%!!, 3 blocks & and the ring :grin: It is not Orlando anymore. He's got better players around him. Harden, Lin, Parsons, Garcia ... they will do the offensive work.
Well its only been 3 games so far this season, but I wouldn't be surprised that Davis did improve. Being his 2nd year if he didn't improve it would be a problem if he isn't showing growth. I won't make any excuses. Lebron James and Kobe did work with Hakeem before and did add something to their games. I know Howard did work with Ewing and Hakeem before as well. For me personally, I'll wait till the all-star break before I judge what sort of improvement or any he has. If he doesn't improve his post play with the 2 of the best post players ever coaching him, I doubt he will ever get it.
You have to establish Dwight as a post player. I mean, that's the whole freakin point otherwise he is just a better version of Asik. I think it makes sense to keep working Dwight in the post. They can only get better at it, no way it can get worse!
Dwight has had this problem his whole career. Even in Orlando he'd make comments to the media regarding the lack of touches. That's just the nature of star big men in a guard's league
All the the shots he missed were in and out backboard hook shots. That's more effective than a three pointer
Ressurecting thread. This has become a real issue in the past 6 games. Dwight is supposed to be the #2 offensive option, but he has less FGA than Parsons. He's starting off with the same FGA as he did with the Lakers, when he complained about not enough post up touches. Olajuwon once said (and I paraphrase), "Give me the ball to start the game. I want to set the tone of the game by taking it to my defenders. After I get my point across, then you can run your plays." We need to do the same with Dwight. We signed him to be the 2nd star on our team. He's not getting treated like one. It is inexcusable to only expect him to clean up the boards and put back misses. If we wanted that, we could've signed someone like DeAndre Jorden for much cheaper. His post up is ugly, but is effective. He just needs to get into a rythm. Run some PnR as well, I haven't even seen much of that either. When a guard misses an open 3, he's supposed to forget it and keep shooting open 3s. Dwight needs the same benefit of the doubt. His FG% is pretty good so far. I want to see more clutch time plays go to Dwight. Otherwise, why is he even here?
His FGA were low and his FG% was decent because he finishes most of his post moves with a travel, charge, free throws, or dribbling out of bounds along the base line. I DO think guys need to be hitting him more on the PnR, but I'm less optimistic about his post game.
