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Is Gary Kubiak truly on the Hot Seat?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rocket River, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Jturbofuel

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    Kubes and Rick Smith both need to be fired. The fact that we have so many salary cap problems and will again this off season and won't be able to plug our needs should be blamed entirely on both of their shoulders.
     
  2. Chef_Monteur

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    Kubiak? On the hot seat? No way, this guy has naked pictures of McNair straddling 12 year old boys. He will never be fired.
     
  3. SwoLy-D

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    You sound so sure about this. :grin:
     
  4. Naija Texan

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    You are wrong, Marcinano has the pictures, Kubiak is just a really good sales person and has McNair on the hook.
     
  5. Sydeffect

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    Our entire coaching staff needs to be revamped. We constantly let go of a lot of talent because our coaches don't know how to utilize them better.

    Just off the top of my head:

    -Trindon Holiday: Amazing special teams player for Broncos
    -Chris Jones: Has 4.5 sacks in only 5 games for the Patriots this season
    -Quinton Demps: Has a bunch of interceptions so far this season
     
  6. Raven

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    Two words,

    Clean House

    But I can see Uncle Bob bringing back Kubiak, because he doesn't want to admit he goofed, and he doesn't want to pay two coaches at the same time.
     
  7. Cannonball

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    And has been a good KO return man this year. #4 in the league in yards/return, right after Holliday.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    Every team has a slew of former fringe players that caught on elsewhere. This is not unique and certainly not a fireable offense.
     
  9. Cannonball

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    I think part of it is that it's hard to identify these types of players with the Texans.

    Chris Myers had only one year as a starter with Denver before we got him and he turned into one of the best centers in the league.

    Wade Smith was drafted as a left tackle and was only an occasional starter with Miami, the Jets, and KC before becoming a solid LG with us in his 7th year.

    And that's pretty much it. Every other noteworthy player was either drafted by the Texans or already established when we acquired them. And those 2 players were acquired in 2008 and 2010 respectively.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    If the Texans routinely played hard and won 6 games, sure - that's indiciative of a coaching issue. But if they don't lie down on him this year; if this team fights back to 8 or 9 wins... I think it has legitimate merit. Keep him at all costs merit? I'm firmly in the "playoffs or else" camp with Smith and Kubiak at this point.
     
  11. htownb4lla

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    Trindon Holiday was not cut until the Cushing injury. Our hand was forced in that scenario. It's hard to justify keeping someone that can only return kicks when you are devestated by injuries.

    Chris Jones, I would of liked to see stay in Houston.

    Quinten Demps did nothing for us while he was on the roster.
     
  12. Spacemoth

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    Kubiak will probably keep his job this year if he can rise to mediocrity for the remainder of it. Go 5-4 down the stretch and Conservative Bob will probably keep him. In doing so he will have successfully separated himself from the stench of Matt Schaub. All the teams woes can be pinned on Matt Schaub's sex change operation this summer.

    And the Texans will be blessed with .500 football for the next handful of years. Seriously how numbskulled is Texans management? Gary Kubiak will never be a winner. He will always crumble in high pressure situations. But an organization is from the top to the bottom a reflection of its owner's philosophy.

    So take it or leave it. You now know what the Texans are.
     
  13. mick fry

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    Exactly, by the end of last year it was obvious this regime was going nowhere but management chose not to make changes and only the niave fans thought that this year would be a success. The very least they could have done was brought in an offensive coordinator.
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    I would have been perfectly OK with a new offensive coordinator (you know they currently have one who was here last year, right?) - but this idea that the Texans should have blown up a team that was 12-4 (and 10-6 the previous year) is so dumbfounding to me...

    I don't have any issue with a "playoffs or bust" mentality this year and into the next several years. But to qualify the previous two seasons as anything other than giant successes (with disappointing endings) is way too far off the reservation and reeks of extreme entitlement. No team is perfect and above reproach - but to label last year's team as "going nowhere" and that fans who waded through nine seasons of mediocrity are "naive" is just silly.
     
  15. ima_drummer2k

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    Has there ever, in the history of the NFL, been a coach fired after a 12-4 season?
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    Marty Schottenheimer was fired after going 14-2 in 2006.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    Yep. 35-13 in his final three years with two playoff appearences (and was the one year he missed the season in which a bad call cost them their final game and a playoff spot? Hochuli was involved, IIRC) Slightly different context, though - Shottenheimer had made a career of underachieving in the playoffs (5-13 overall and riding a six-game losing streak). Kubiak's not there yet (though I'd argue he has underachieved overall with this group) - but he absolutely earned the 2013 season. To argue otherwise... I just can't wrap my head around it.
     
  18. Raven

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    Kubiak should have been fired years ago. I'm not impressed that a team with a healthy super star RB (in his prime) could dominant for a couple of seasons. The Texans will always be Fool's Gold with Kubiak running the team. Is it possible the players can win in spite of the coaching? I guess, but what does that prove, that if you keep a bad coach long enough that his team will eventually get on a lucky streak and make a deep run? Whatever. :rolleyes:
     
  19. meh

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    I would say one is not like the other. The team can play pretty well, in fact at the level we expected them to start the season, and still win less than 8 games. You are basically saying they can go 6-3 the rest of the way. Without Cushing, that's pretty difficult. 5-4 right now would be considered a pretty good finish given our QB situation. And that would result in 7 wins.

    At this point it's not about whether or not Kubiak is losing the locker room. if the standard as you say is the playoffs(or perhaps even just 9 wins), then Kubiak needs to get his players to play like their life depends on it
     
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