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[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The Cat, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. LikeMike

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    You know why there are threads? Because it is Lin - the Linsanity guy with one of the most amazing stories. If we would`ve gotten CP3 guys would b**** because it is unfair to Lin.

    Beverly IS a good PG. He just is not a good creator. Perhaps that is what you mean by being a good PG - but on this team we already have a great creator in Harden, we don`t need a creating PG next to him. Beverly is a good shooter, has good ball control, is a great rebounder and an exceptional defender. He gets into other peoples heads, creates a spark for his teammaes. He even got a vote for the "who is going to be DPOY" voting... Perhaps that should tell you, that he can`t be that bad.

    In the end what LOFs must understand - it is not about Lin, it is about the team. McHale does what he thinks will help the team most. And he is not alone with his thinking. I do believe Lin is the better player, but I also believe he can help this team more as the leader of the second unit with 25-30 minutes a night.

    So forget about what is fair to Lin. It doesn`t matter what`s fair - it`s about what`s best for the team and getting the players on board with it. Lin is onboard with it, and hopefully he does everything to get his starting job back.
     
  2. zdrav

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    Yup. We saw what he could do during Linsanity. We saw what we could do against the Spurs. We saw what he could do during the 3-or-so games when Harden was injured last season.

    Give this kid the ball, put him in charge, and good things will happen. He's done it time and time again.
     
  3. JustAGuy

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    Playing against the other team's bench should result in seriously good numbers for him. Have you seen what potential NBA starters do in the D-League? He's an actual starting caliber PG. He should be able to wipe the floor with most bench players.

    Being demoted may be a real thing, but it is not setting him up for failure.
     
  4. persons

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    of course it's about the team so tell me what did lin do to make houston lose their preseason games? actually lin had better overall inviduval games then pb did so how did he manage to get demoted? by losing all the pre-season games he was in or something? man i really wish Lin would man up like lowry and tell Mchail to go stick it.
     
  5. persons

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    oh really? so now you're using the simple double standard that most people are going to use which is why Lin would never and can never catch a break even if hes doing well.. But last season Bev was playing against benchers.. why did he get promoted? yea exactly because he's black so its ok to not judge him
     
  6. JustAGuy

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    Is Beverley better than Lin? I don't actually think he is. Do you?

    So if Lin is in the spot Beverley was in, and performing better, won't it be obvious? I think with him leading the bench, they will be kicking butt. If they aren't, then it's because Lin isn't as good as I thought he was.
     
  7. RiceRockets

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    You are getting it all wrong man, this is the best thing for Lin and team, this is a Win Win!

    The demotion would be Lin sitting in the corner 3 watching Harden PnR with Howard.
     
  8. Ultimate6thMan

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    I have tried my best to stay out of this, but I guess I just can't help it.

    I don't like the move. We have 82 games of chemistry built between Harden, Parsons, Lin and Asik last season. All we had to do was to work Howard into that lineup and continue to build on the chemistry.

    McHale is messing that up and to me it is CLEAR that he has never given Lin a fair chance from the times of Douglas through Beverley. I love Beverley as a player and on our team, but to me he has not earned the starting job from Lin...that's just my opinion, obviously not McHale's.

    I think our team will do well regardless because we have freaking Dwight Howard and James Harden as our SUPERSTARS. So the benefit to McHale is that he can start Bev over Lin and the team will still be better than last year and no one will know how much better they could have been with Lin starting. He never gave Lin the opportunity to start even one preseason game with the full starting lineup including Asik and Howard. How can you do that to someone that started for you for all 82 games last year?

    I love my Rockets first and foremost over any individual player, and I never even watched but only one game of Linsanity, which was the one against the Lakers; but I think Lin has been unfairly treated by McHale for whatever reason. All of you that hate Lin can flame away...it's just my honest opinion.

    If the Rockets don't achieve great things this year, at least WCF, I will go back to calling McHale, McFAIL. Hate me all you want. I still love my Rockets....over any Coach also.
     
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  9. persons

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    a good coach would make it work a good couch would not bench their better point guard... i can't say anymore then a that and its easy to figure out.
     
  10. LikeMike

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    Like i said, Lin did not lose his job. McHale decided it is better to pair him with the second unit. Why? Because his skillset is not desperately needed for the first team but it is desperately needed for the second team. This does not mean Lin will only play 15 minutes a night. I fully expect him to play 25-30 minutes and finish games.

    Beverly "won" the starting job by improving our biggest weakness last season: perimeter defense. He also hits his open shots and takes care of the ball. Lin struggled with all these things last season. Yeah, he improved, but he is not better than Beverly in any of these areas. He is better in creating and finishing at the rim - something he wouldn`t be able to utilize much with Harden and Howard. But we desperately need a scoring punch and creator of the bench to help the Garcias, Casspis, DMos, Asiks and yes Beverlys score.
     
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    PB may do well this game, he may do well against other weak teams too, but vs stronger teams I expect PB either get burnt or get in foul trouble. the league wont give green light to this 2nd yrs rookie's boarderline defense movement, especially when match up with those now or future allstar PGs all over the league. In the end the league is a business show they are not gonna allow a 800k contract get away with fouls and ruin those Max contract's show. Plus we got Harden who like to draw fouls from no where, the Refs wont let everything go Rox's way, they will balance the calls. It wont happen every time but I can expect it happen a lot, Rox has never been favored by refs. without the edge on defensive end PB is even not better than AB. let's wait and see what happened, the first few games may show the league office's will.
     
  12. Ricksmith

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    I would like to personally thank you for keeping me entertained tonight. CHI/MIA sucked, and I couldn't get my mind off of tomorrow, wondering how great our new starting Point Guard will perform with James and Dwight. So thank you, persons, seriously. I'm almost tempted to rep you to get you back in the green.

    Funny, considering your username. Lin now has the opportunity to be the Ultimate 6th Man.
     
  13. monk92

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    Why is everyone taking this as a demotion? It's not like Lin is Matt Schaub and we are never going to see him again, he's still going to get 25-30 mins a night. If Lin were to start, there would be 3 players better than him (deservedly) getting more touches. It's a waste of his skills for him to be the 4th option with the starters and not getting the ball. Beverly doesn't need as many touches to be successful and has a completely different skill set to Lin's that better complement the rest of the starting 5, which is why he is the starter.
     
  14. KlutchQT

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    Here we go with the race BS. So. Incredibly. Over. It.
     
  15. hahachui

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    As long as we win, I don't care who is starting.
     
  16. TJ VS TR

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    Nice post, maybe I ask which 6th man do you name your handle after?
     
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    I agree, unless Harden changes his game, Lin should be gone. He costs too much for a bench player.

    The key for Rockets' future in my opinion is 1. the Harden / Howard PnR. If that does not work out and Harden turns holding the ball and going ISO mode in 4th quarter as we saw last year, we are all doomed; 2. Harden's defense. While offensively he is a super-star level player, he still needs to develop his defensive game.

    The key for Beverly to survive as a starting PG is that he needs to play a smarter and controlled game. Going for offensive rebounds/hustles while losing his position at team defense, was one of his problem last season.
     
  18. kumakun

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    I just finished my fantasy draft, Patrick Beverly got picked like 50th, Lin was ranked 78, he ended up picked like 86 after auto picked.
     
  19. Hakeemtheking

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    I bet almost everyone of our bench players think they should be starting: D-MO, Garcia, Casspi, and now Lin. They would be super motivated when they enter and this will ultimately help the team.

    Our bench will be running on high octane and I expect many blowouts in this coming season.

    Linsanity lives!
     
  20. JustAGuy

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    It's traditional for fans to hate a coach when a team doesn't perform up to expectations. But to be fair, they haven't played a game yet.

    And we don't know what is going on inside the team. McHale talked to Lin and Beverley about it all, and Lin said "We are all on the same page." Interview on the Rockets.com website.

    For all we know, McHale said "Do a good job, and you'll get the minutes."

    If Lin is getting close to 30 minutes a game, then he is being put in the best possible position he can be in on this team by being put in charge of the Bench unit when Harden is out. He's being put in a place where he could get real recognition as a 6th man of the year contender.

    So being mad at McHale before we know what is going to happen on the court is unreasonable. Wait and see is a much better approach to take.
     

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