The Team Owes Case Keenum One

Hey Now! · Oct 24, 2013

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For those of us who have followed Keenum's career, we have seen a multitude of coaches game plan for him without success.
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I think there’s an ever-so slight difference between NFL defensive coordinators and Conference USA defensive coordinators; like solar system-slight.

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He was "undrafted for a reason" argument is getting old. He had a hamstring injury during the NFL Combine which affected his throwing (weak arm argument).
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Teams don’t put all their scouting into the combine basket; he may have hurt his stock – but it likely meant he fell from a 5th, 6th, 7th round pick to undrafted. He was never highly thought of – and going undrafted tells only part of the story: he also generated zero interest as a rookie free agent and sat on our practice squad for an entire season untouched. 31 NFL teams have had *ample* opportunity to invest in Case Keenum and they’ve repeatedly passed on the opportunity. And I truly doubt, even after Sunday, any of them “regret it.”

And his status as an undrafted free agent is relevant only in setting expectations, not to run him down. No one mentions Arian Foster being undrafted in terms of evaluating his current talent because he has established himself as one of the NFL’s best RBs. Same could be said for Tony Romo and Victor Cruz. Until Keenum overcomes the stigma, it’ll be used to keep everything in perspective.

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(H)e is a special talent the Texans should develop and hang on to. If they don't, they will regret it.
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This is almost, word for the word, the exact sentiment expressed by fans of Baby Vince seven years ago. So please excuse many of us for not having the energy to endure another wildly biased. irrational discussion about some local kid we’re supposed to love unconditionally. There appears to be some promise and he had a very nice debut. But these ridiculous assertions of franchise disintegration at the hands of Case Keenum is so wildly overblown. Teams miss on players that go on to have nice careers elsewhere all the time, and I’ve never seen a franchise fold because of it. The talent pool, and access to it, is way too pervasive for one player to make or break a franchise.

ryano2009 · Oct 24, 2013

Little off-topic but any highlights of Case against the Chiefs...???

speedball · Oct 24, 2013

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That was not the point at hand. Tons of QBs fail. Please, enlighten us as to who these QBs are that got "figured out". I'm not familiar with many that have had fast/promising starts at the pro level and then petered out (or in your words, "came crashing back down to Earth") who don't fall into one of the two categories I already mentioned.
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Here's one: Josh Freeman.

sugrlndkid · Oct 24, 2013

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Mr. Dominant · Oct 24, 2013

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...eenum-matt-schaub-to-be-evaluated-during-bye

Houston Texans quarterbacks coach Karl Dorrell said before Sunday's game versus the Kansas City Chiefs that the "best-case scenario" would involve Case Keenum putting himself in position to challenge Matt Schaub for the starting job.

That's exactly what happened in a 17-16 loss, in which Keenum displayed athleticism, a quick release and the ability to test an elite defense down the field.

Texans coach Gary Kubiak left the door open Monday for Keenum to hold onto the position through the bye week.

"Obviously, Matt's our starting quarterback," Kubiak said. "Case went in and played extremely well. I'm going to sit down, we're on a bye week, (and) I'm going to evaluate where we're at as a team and move forward form there."

Kubiak went on to praise Keenum for playing mistake-free football and "handling the team very well" in a tough environment.

The Houston Chronicle's John McClain, a veteran translator of coachspeak, came away from Monday's press conference "fully expecting" Kubiak to stick with Keenum.

In an ideal world, Schaub's ankle injury will buy Keenum one more start before Kubiak's hand is forced.
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...e-Keenum/b8f6b9aa-b01b-4464-b55e-5d7975981a8f

Andre Johnson was not surprised by Case Keenum’s NFL debut on Sunday. Despite the loss, Keenum passed for 271 yards and one touchdown, in the most yards ever by a Texans quarterback in a first start with the team. Johnson saw Keenum’s ability to be a playmaker back in the preseason, maybe even sooner.

“I wasn’t surprised about it,” Johnson said. “You always see flashes from players in practice, preseason and different situations throughout the season. What he did during the preseason and the things you see from him in practice, the guy, he creates plays at times when things aren’t there. Like I said before, there’s just something about him. He did a great job.”

Johnson remembered one particular play in Sunday’s game. After scrambling around in the backfield, Keenum was able to find Johnson for a 42-yard completion in the third quarter, Johnson’s longest catch of the season.

“I think when you have plays like that, it turns into school yard football,” Johnson said. “That’s pretty much what that play was. I saw him rolling back towards me and I couldn’t really run the way I was running because there was nothing there but the sideline so I just turned up field and he saw me and threw it.”

The eleven-year veteran receiver also caught the Keenum’s first ever NFL pass attempt, a 10-yard completion, for a first down. Keenum connected with six different receivers, including Johnson who finished with four receptions for 89 yards.

“He went into a hostile environment and played well,” Johnson said. “I’m pretty sure a lot of people were thinking he wouldn’t come out and perform the way he performed. I think he handled himself like a pro. I think he did a great job.”
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Raven · Oct 24, 2013

Hey Now! said: ↑

This is almost, word for the word, the exact sentiment expressed by fans of Baby Vince seven years ago. So please excuse many of us for not having the energy to endure another wildly biased. irrational discussion about some local kid we’re supposed to love unconditionally. There appears to be some promise and he had a very nice debut. But these ridiculous assertions of franchise disintegration at the hands of Case Keenum is so wildly overblown. Teams miss on players that go on to have nice careers elsewhere all the time, and I’ve never seen a franchise fold because of it. The talent pool, and access to it, is way too pervasive for one player to make or break a franchise.
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Most of us just want Schaub off the field. Keenum will do. If he continues to play well, or even improve, he should remain the starter. If he plays poorly, Yates can be given another chance, but Matt Schaub must remain on the sidelines. Nothing is accomplished by trotting him back out there.

As far as Keenum's potential, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows what he's capable of, good or bad, so let's watch and find out.

But regardless of how well Keenum plays, the Texans need to draft another QB. I don't want the Texans to ever go into another season without having a quality backup at that position.

yuisakata · Oct 26, 2013

solid said: ↑

For those of us who have followed Keenum's career, we have seen a multitude of coaches game plan for him without success. He was "undrafted for a reason" argument is getting old. He had a hamstring injury during the NFL Combine which affected his throwing (weak arm argument). Yes, he is short. The kid can make all the throws and some others don't routinely make. He is savy at reading defenses and taking what they give him. What you saw Sunday, is what many of us have seen for years. Talk him down all you want. He is what he is. Will he have better games, worse games? I am sure he will, but he is a special talent the Texans should develop and hang on to. If they don't, they will regret it.
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Yep, I know it when a talent is special, and this is one of those rare occasions. It just so happens that Case Keenum went to U of Houston. Even if he went to college in A&M, I'd still be backing him because I think he has a chance to be special and an elite QB (I'm ex-Longhorn btw).

The hometown kid argument is way overblown.

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