I'm not a big fan of Cutino Mobley. Yes he provides a spark off the bench every once in a while, but more times than not, he's throughing up wild shots and driving right into the teeth of the defense and turning it over. It baffles me how time after time, Rudy T. has Mobley isolated in key situations at the end of the games instead of Steve Francis. Steve Francis is the best player on the team, he should have the ball. ------------------
Hey pooh, Cat's performance in his very first NBA game is the reason he gets all the 4th quarter run. My man nailed a game winning 3 with like 8 seconds left against Golden State. I was there to witness the clutch performance and have been a big time Cuttino (yeah, it's 2 t's, pooh) fan ever since. Trading Dickerson instead of Cat was the right thing to do. Starting Cat near the end of last season was the right thing to do. Allowing a shooting guard to take the clutch shots is the right thing to do. Yeah, Cat can disappoint, but don't you remember that MJ commercial where he confesses to missing many more potentially game winning shots then to actually making them? Cat has never backed down from the pressure of the last shot. When Franchise improves his outside shooting touch, he'll be the man. For now, embrace the almighty Cat and his abilities. ------------------ [This message has been edited by driver8 (edited November 25, 2000).]
At least spell the man's name right: CuTTino. As for substance, there is no formula to a fourth quarter play when the minutes are draining. If Steve is there and open, he's probably the first option. Mobley, second. Walt and Mo are both viable third options... One thing this team has out the kazoo is scoring options. That helps in tight 4th situations. What we need to focus on is not getting in the position where the whole game rests upon a single basket in the first place (Q1-Q3)... Basically, beat the crap outta a team in the 3rd, and the 4th doesn't matter... ------------------ [This message has been edited by treeman (edited November 25, 2000).]
Beat em in the 3rd so Cat can raise his numbers against the scrubs! ------------------ Miggidy Markell says: 1. Eastcoast is da sh*t 2. Rockets rule 3. Hip/Hop is dope 4. Buy the new Ruff Ryders album! Miggidy Markell is watching Stay STRAPPED & WATCH ya back or be Assimilated.
Agree 100% - come out of the Locker Room smokin' and leave the 4th quarter for padding the stats and not game winning decisions. ------------------ GATER
Throughing? Um, sorry. Cuttino defintely is a hog and can be bad, but he is clutch and Steve is not always, thus, right now he will get the ball. ------------------ EZLN
i definitely think mobley is the second go-to guy on our team, and no doubt he is a major threat when his game is on. but the most vocal player is not always the best player. dickerson is a better defender, a better finisher, and a more intelligent player than cuttino at this point in their respective career--that's one reason why dickerson is a first rounder. mobley has the edge on him in terms of FT% and FG%, but Dickerson has the edge in terms of turnovers and APG. mobley is a spark off the bench, and he definitely has a quick first step.. but what else does he bring to the table: an ok shot, a mediocre three point threat, and good free throw shooting. he detracts from his skills with poor shot selections and too many one-on-one attempts. right now, mobley is more in the mode of an eddie jones - latrell sprewell player.. good slasher, ok jump shot.. it'd be nice to see him turn into more of an all-around threat like bryant and even like iverson this year. at end of game situations,(and i haven't seen too many games) if mobley could learn to trust his teammates more and not feel as if HE's the one who has to take the last shot because HE's the leader of the team, then the Rox could be more flexible during crunch time. we have multiple threats in mo, steve, and hakeem. confidence is good, but mobley is nowhere near the level of jordan where officials will give him the benefit of the doubt in the fourth quarter or where he can still score when his opponents know that he's gonna get the ball. compared to other shooting guards mobley's APG is among the lowest: FG 3 PT % FT % APG PPG Mobley 0.430 0.343 0.848 2.4 17.2 Houston 0.438 0.390 0.852 1.7 18.8 Starks 0.390 0.259 0.875 1.6 11.7 Bryant 0.460 0.417 0.871 4.5 26.8 Iverson 0.373 0.237 0.773 5.3 21.6 Stackho 0.400 0.315 0.849 3.7 27.8 Dickers 0.423 0.419 0.563 2.7 15.7 ------------------
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AAAH. YOur post ate up everything under it! Or so it looks like that on my screen. Is it just me? And, how do you decrease the space between the beginning of the topic and the beginning of the HTML? ------------------ Francis out top, 9 seconds on the clock, he gives a no look pass to Cuttino Mobley, 4 seconds left, Mobley passes to an open Langhi in the corner with 1 second left! Langhi at the buzzer.......YES!!! How Sweet It Is!! [This message has been edited by Rockets R' Us (edited November 25, 2000).]
Beaufort, your points dont even corilate to the statistics you give in the never ending MD/CM debate. let me add this. in your chart you compare Cuttino to like 5 allstars and Dickerson. so that donst make your point any stronger. if however you used 2guards like Doug Christy, you maybe would have made more sence. Also, please take note that Dickerson had such a slight edge in assists over Mobley that the differance is neglegable this early in the season. also you failed to note that Mobley pulls down .4 more rebounds per game than dickerson. with his 6 boards tonight that will likely streach to .5 boards advantage. Mobley is a bettter free throw shooter, and its free throws that win games. also, most importantly Dickerson plays almost 34 mins/game while Mobley gets less than 30. given the fact that he is already a better shooter/scorer/rebounder, dont you think that his assist number might go up to be equal or higher than dicks in those extra 4.2 mins. I do, and im pretty sure he would be averaging better than 20 pts. as far as gunning up wild shots... you gotta be nuts, im gonna use your own statistics against you. 2 Guard FG % Mobley 0.430 Houston 0.438 Starks 0.390 Bryant 0.460 Iverson 0.373 Stackhouse 0.400 Dickerson 0.423 only houston and Bryant are better at making shots. Game winners are calculated in those numbers too you know. so now chew on this. Ray Allen is without a doubt one of the top shooting guards in the league(thats why he was on the Olympic team). compare his stats with Cuttinos http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ray_allen.html http://www.nba.com/playerfile/cuttino_mobley.html just look at the difference in minutes, and you will all be thanking your lucky stars WE have Mobley, and not Vancouver. I respect all the players mentioned, but please Respect the Cat. *PEACE ------------------ Hanta-Force Paintball www.hanta-force.com
I coudldn't disagree with you more about trading Dick and keeping Cat. If the deal depended on Dick then yeah I agree with you since we would not have been able to aquire Francis, BUT if they didn't care which one they got then MD is by far the better player. Better shooter better defender and better TEAM player. Oh and if you watch him in Vancouver the man can drive to the hoop like the best of em. Overall there is no comparison who is the better player. Although he is not on this team anymore you got to give credit where credit is due. ------------------ "We need to fockass".....Dream back in the day
I think that this is the code that you want. <textarea name="S1" rows="6" cols="25"><table border="4" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td>Kinda</td> <td>Like</td> <td>This</td> </tr> <tr> <td>I'd look really</td> <td>bad if this</td> <td>didn't work</td> </tr> </table> </textarea> ------------------ Cuttino Mobley Online vote.cuttino-mobley.com Cuttino and Steve for 2001 All-Star Team
<table border="4" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td>Kinda</td> <td>Like</td> <td>This</td> </tr> <tr> <td>I'd look really</td> <td>bad if this</td> <td>didn't work</td> </tr> </table> ------------------ Cuttino Mobley Online vote.cuttino-mobley.com Cuttino and Steve for 2001 All-Star Team [This message has been edited by FrancisFan (edited November 26, 2000).]
The problem there was Digaida tried to close a table (</TABLE> ) with an open table tag (<TABLE> ). Also note that the forum is designed to treat a carriage return like a line break... meaning if you hit enter to go to the next line it moves down a space... TRANSLATION: When you do a table or HTML on this forum all your code needs to be without line breaks. The reason we see tables here that skip so many lines before they start is there are carriage returns after a <TR>, etc. Anyhow, way, way off topic. Just an FYI.... lets get back on track... ------------------ NOTHING BUT .NET CLUTCHCITY.NET
Thanks for clearing up that carriage return issue with tables, Clutch. Now, of course, all my future posts will contain tables... ...whether they need them or not. ------------------ "We end up with Francis/Mobley isolations very often. More often, I'd say, then other teams." -- jamcracker
