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As of today who do you think starts at PF?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Oct 16, 2013.

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As of today who do you think starts at PF?

Poll closed Oct 23, 2013.
  1. Jones

    63 vote(s)
    23.4%
  2. DMo

    116 vote(s)
    43.1%
  3. Smith

    3 vote(s)
    1.1%
  4. Casspi

    59 vote(s)
    21.9%
  5. Asik

    28 vote(s)
    10.4%
  1. Scarface281

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    Casspi is start going to start at the 4. I'm surprised he got so many votes. It's between Jones and DMo (I went with DMo). We need that scoring punch of the bench with Casspi.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    I'm sticking with Jones. He looks to be a better fit with the starters.
     
  3. omgTHEpotential

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    I'd like Jones to start and both D-Mo & Casspi to come off the bench just because I feel we need to keep both starting 5 and the bench balanced so there's not that huge of a talent dropoff when coach makes the subs.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm going with Jones, he's not competent enough to be on the court when the team would actually have to rely on him to do something so put him in with the starters because they won't need him to do anything.
     
  5. jtr

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    Bev, Casspi, D-Mo, Garcia and Asik. That is a better bench than a few starting NBA lineups.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Exactly. Having a starting caliber bench is one hell of an amazing thing to have. I think it'll help the Rockets rack up the wins without exhausting Howard and Harden.
     
  7. ooooaaaah!

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    I thought I was going to click on some link that was going to convince me Derrick Williams is a bad idea but sorry to say all you did was a lot of capitalization without much data. A link to his salary and a link to his stats. His stats look like exactly what the Rockets need if you want a motor guy that rebounds and has a bit of touch. If you want a wimpy stretch four who doesn't rebound he certainly isn't what you are looking for.
     
  8. Naija Texan

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    I would start Jones with the majority of actual playing time minutes being reserved for Motiejunas off the bench, depending on how well either or both are playing.
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    His stats look a lot like Terrence Jones's stats except not so good. Terrence Jones's contract looks a lot better as well. The eye ball test shows Jones being the better man to man defender and rebounder, as well. Oddly, Williams is the better stretch four if you want a "wimpy" player.
     
  10. SuperKev

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    I agree with Casspi at the 4, followed by Jones. DMo seems way to unpolished at this time for the position. For the 1 Beverly would be slightly better choice but generally it's the same there.
     
  11. SuperKev

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    By the way basketballholic I think the inclusion of Casspi in your poll poisoned it a bit. I bet if you made the choice jones, DMo or Smith the general consensus might be Jones. But I think Casspi is an intriguing possibility at the 4.
     
  12. basketballholic

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    Poisoned it??

    On the contrary...Casspi has as much a chance of starting as Greg Smith and DMo/TJones. He should have been included in the previous poll.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    Casspi would be garbage if he was starting, literally every starting PF in the NBA would walk all over him and he wouldn't get enough touches with the starters to score like we'd want him to. I'm all for starting the worst PF, Jones, in the way OKC starts Sefolosha. Use DMo and Casspi off the bench where they will be more needed and more effective. I'd have Jones playing about 15 minutes a game as technically the starter and split the rest among DMo and Casspi, I'd also play Casspi at his true position, backup SF, occasionally for his shooting.
     
  14. basketballholic

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    FYI,

    1. You are copying my trade suggestions.

    2. Posters that are using WS/48 on Derrick when he's playing on a lottery team without it's best player (Love), alongside a sub par paint defender (Pek) and backup paint defenders that were even worse, and alongside with a point guard (the second best player) coming off major knee surgery who missed the first half of the season basically and was still in come-back mode when he came back.....posters that are using WS/48 to be against Derrick Williams in those circumstances aren't being rational.




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    Just to carry the WS/48 idea out further, Rubio and Love had .085 and .084 WS/48 last year. Using that criteria their trade values should be crap. Those were the 2 best players on the team. No excuses...right??

    Be rational. WS/48 is meaningless in Derrick's case.
     
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    Shooting: DMo > TJones
    Post Scoring: DMo > TJones
    Rebounding: TJones > DMo
    Help-Defense: DMo > TJones
    One-on-One D: TJones > TJones

    I think DMo gets the nod for his shooting and help-defense, which will be more useful next to Howard.
     
  16. Deckard

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    I agree, but then I've been surprised before. Who would have guessed that Chandler Parsons would move into the starting spot after just a few games in his rookie year? Casspi starting at the 4 would shock me. I think it's still a tossup between Donuts and Jones, with Donatas possibly not starting only because McHale likes him as an impact player with the second unit.

    Yeah, I like the idea of them being our bench mob. No rest for the other team, folks.
     
  17. basketballholic

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    Shooting: Casspi > DMo
    Post Scoring: Howard > DMo (We don't need post scoring when Howard is on the floor. Remember this is about who is going to start next to Howard.)
    Rebounding: Asik > Jones; Casspi = Jones
    Help-Defense: Casspi = Jones
    One-on-One D: Asik > TJones
     
  18. tallanvor

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    No reason we need a set 4 by the start of the season. Not sure why people treat that like some deadline. We can keep switching out during the season depending on who is playing well and the match up.
     
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    I agree with that. It's really about what the rotation is going to be at the 4/5. In my opinion, I think the rotation is going to be Howard, Asik, Casspi...as long as those 3 guys are healthy and Casspi is shooting well. When Asik gets healthy we're gonna give him 30 minutes. We're giving Dwight 30-36 minutes. I suspect Casspi gets the bulk of the rest of the minutes with DMo possibly getting a few scrap minutes and TJones and SMith sitting in suits.

    We need to make a trade.
     
  20. Deckard

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    We don't, necessarily, but I think guys play better when they know their roles, regardless of where they see themselves playing. Eventually, McHale will settle on a rotation, absent problems with the "i" word, or a deal by Morey.
     

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