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[ESPN] Are Schaub, zone scheme right for Texans?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 9, 2013.

  1. STR8Thugg

    STR8Thugg STR8Thugg Member

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    This is 100% correct. I love what Wade has brought to the team, and I'm so thankful that we have him. However, that game was beyond atrocious.......looked like 2010 Texans...

    It's not that difficult to figure out Wade. Just STOP PUTTING MLB BARRETT RUUD ON SHANE VEREEN (a small, quick RB flanked as a slot receiver!!!!), and WE HAVE A GREAT CHANCE TO WIN THE GAME!!!

    HOW PAINFULLY OBVIOUS WAS IT THAT THE ABSURD/SENILE DEFENSIVE MATCHUPS COST US THE GAME?!? Sure, the offense could have played better, etc., but the stupidity and lack of organization on defense we completely correctable and unacceptable.
     
  2. ubigred

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    Interesting.
     
  3. BE4RD

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    Peyton Manning wants faster offense

    Even Peyton seems to get it. This was my main gripe with the Texans offense. No rhythm. Unable to come from behind.

    The Texans tied the Broncos at 4th in plays from scrimmage last year. But if you weight those stats as plays per minute, the Texans drop considerably lower.

    Texans - 2.01 plays per minute
    Broncos - 2.18 plays per minute
    Patriots - 2.40 plays per minute
     
  4. Cannonball

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    IIRC, this was the situation. It was 3rd and 2 just past midfield. We pass and it's incomplete. On 4th and 2 we passed and it was incomplete again. After the game Kubiak was asked why didn't we try to run if we were going to go for it on 4th down. Kubes responded by saying that when he called the play on 3rd and 2, he didn't know that they would go for it on 4th down if they failed on 3rd down.

    That was also the game where we just came out throwing the ball a bunch after Foster had racked up 230 yards and 3 TD's against Indy in the home opener. Foster got 100 yards in the 2nd meeting but only had 15 carries because we came out throwing, fell behind early, and had to pass to try to make up ground quickly.

    Maybe what you described happened in another game, but it didn't happen in that MNF Indy game.
     
  5. STR8Thugg

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    The problem is the offensive line -- not the system we're running. Right side of the OL once again let us down.
     
  7. STR8Thugg

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    My guess is it will be much better next season but then some of the other guys start leveling off. Obviously not DBrown, but maybe Myers...
     
  8. BE4RD

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    The warning signs were all around us...

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/mqUUlBwtKNs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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  9. SWTsig

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    yup... a lot of the so called "experts" in this thread were playing their violins while capt. gary was rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

    but look on the brightside - at least we outgained the rams and controlled the clock!
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Very true article

    Rocket River
     
  11. Nick

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    A lot of the issues I mentioned are just as present, if not worse, today.

    The right side of the line has REGRESSED this year. Newton is worse, Brooks has been hurt/inconsistent. This has been compounded by the left side of the line no longer playing at a high level as well... either due to age or injury (or lack of juicing).

    Inconsistent pass blocking, inconsistent run blocking, a skiddish QB making bad decisions, an inability to run the ball consistently as the team's mostly been playing from behind this year, and an inability to execute a system that relies on all of the above players playing at a higher level than they currently are.

    Oh, and the defense has regressed for the 3rd year in a row as well... they're hardly average. Don't believe the total yards fallacy stat that doesn't take into account Kareem Jackson penalties, personal foul penalties, lack of takeaways, lack of sacks, and consistently giving up 80+ yard drives per game and consistently allowing red zone TD's every game.
     
  12. SWTsig

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    Doesn't matter. None of what you wrote matters. It starts with the top. Period. End of story. This is a mentally weak team and it starts w kubiak. Well really it starts w McNair but he's not going anywhere.

    Done hearing excuses. Done with the ZERO accountability. This organization has proven time and time again that keeping the status quo is priority #1. For christs sake kubiak hired his own boss! He has his hand in every. single. decision. Everything you just wrote all goes back directly to kubes.

    Time to movE on.
     
  13. Nick

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    Sure... but they'll need better talent up front regardless of which regime or QB takes over.

    Elite lines lead to elite teams... unless you have a top 5 QB of all time in the fold.

    And all the responsibility will fall on the next guy... just as it did on Casserly with the first regime, or Kubiak with the second regime.
     
  14. Naija Texan

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    The offensive line has fallen from its time as one of the best in the NFL a few years ago.

    But it isn't the main reason for our offensive struggles. Our guys are still pretty much middle of the road as a unit due to injuries and inexperience but the lack variation in play calling, how the offense attacks falls for baits by opposing defenses and the lack of even trying to make down field plays are the source of many of the Texans problems.

    The offensive line doesn't/shouldn't have to be perfect for our team to succeed, the defense doesn't need or should have to get multiple turnovers a game, the fact is it has been shown that either Schaub or Kubiak's offense is too flawed to work in a NFL team where we can't load them up with high dollar talent or multiple seasons of on the job training.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    What is our longest pass play from scrimmage this year?
    Not a screen that went for 40 . . but a pass that was in the air for more than 20 yrds?

    Rocket River
     
  16. MadMax

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    The pass down field to Hopkins late in the game vs. the Titans comes to mind. That's the only one that comes to mind right now.
     
  17. Nick

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    I think the pass to AJ80 during the same game was a longer one too... the one he got a concussion from Pollard from that they had to review to rule a catch.
     
  18. solid

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    Then I think a good many fans are going to have make some hard decisions. Yeah, I know, a waiting list for season tickets, but that list can evaporate real quick. Uncle Bob and his public funded Disney World is not entirely bullet proof. Who would have thought Enron's fortunes could have changed so drastically and quickly.
     
  19. BE4RD

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    It grew after 6-10, and it'll grow after this year too.
     
  20. solid

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    So here is what you are saying: no matter how poorly they play, no matter how bad it gets, Uncle Bob laughs all the way to the bank. No changes, no worries, no hope. So he is bullet proof. Illogical, ultimately, illogical. A period of rising expectations is far different than hopelessness. When hopelessness settles in, decline is inevitable. I think you are utterly wrong. Time will tell. If you are right, my level of cynicism will increase exponentially.
     

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