Regarding whether or not Walt knows Jesse is alive... isn't Walt scouring through the local newspapers like a crazy man? You would think the story of a single mother randomly executed (kill-shot style) on her front porch would have made the paper... and they likely would have released her name/address where it happened (and we know Walt knows where she lives). Walt probably would pick up on that... realize its too big a coincidence to have the ONLY thing Jesse cared about (Andrea/Brock) be violated unless Jesse did something to deserve it (or somebody needed leverage against Jesse). Regardless, he's already said what his motive was for killing these guys BEFORE he ever saw that interview. He told Saul at the beginning of the episode that these guys have his life's work (referring to the $$$), and they killed Hank... thus they deserve to die. Walt was in crazy mode planning some mass execution, but had the coughing fit, Saul left, and he lost a little steam once he was dropped off in the middle of nowhere/dead-winter. The interview merely re-charged that plan in his mind, along with the knowledge that there's still his blue meth out there, Jesse likely still alive and a reason for that, ... and giving him some new-found strength in the form of more Grey Matter reminders that used to help spur him along at the beginning.
Walt taught him way before he wanted Jesse killed. Walt didn't hold anything back in the teaching... Todd is just an idiot. I'm kind of fuzzy on what happened after Walt retired. I know he sold his distributor rights to the bearded guy and his crew (the ones who got killed by Todd/Uncle Jack), but what happened to Todd right after Walt retired? Was he still cooking for anybody? He must have still had some connection of Lydia knew to call him to take care of the sub-par product distributors.
Perhaps. Still doesn't change the fact that Lydia came to Walt earlier in the season and told him about the sub-par product that "she can't take to europe, and if he doesn't cook for her, he's putting her in a box". Now Walt hears that the blue meth is still around... its BACK IN EUROPE... and he's likely read about Andrea's murder. Putting it altogether, he knows that Jesse is still alive or has intimately taught them his product, and they are now running his empire with his product, similiar to him getting kicked out of grey matter. If Walt was ready to get a gang together to kill the nazi's simply because they killed Hank and stole his money... obviously adding the above events would simply add to that motivation.
Um, was just answering your question. Thought you wanted to know what happened with Todd after Walt's buyout.
Walter wanted to kill the Nazis when he was at the vacuum office but that anger went down when the cover up guy told him that if he leaves the cabin he will for sure get arrested. The turning point was when he calls Walter Jr, who he has always had a very close relationship ship and his idolizes him, and he wants nothing to do with him. I think he realizes then that there is nothing he can do to clear himself with his family. The tipping point is when Grey matter CEO(sorry dont know their name) is being interviewed by Charlie Rose and they dismiss him altogether. Grey Matter and Blue Meth is Walter's creation and I think he will go into a frenzy in the finale getting revenge and freeing Jesse. Pinkman is the closest thing Walter has left for a family now. I think the next on his list will be Lydia and then the Schawarz...
I personally don't think Walter is going to do anything to the Grey Matter people. The Grey Matter arc just served as a perfect parallel to his current "empire" and gave him a reminder to ignite a spark to get his empire back (the money, at this point). Yes, he was probably slighted and very pissed on them downplaying his role in the company but I agree with cardpire that it would be silly for him to exact revenge on them personally for it. I think Gilligan put it in there to remind Walter (and in larger part, the audience) of his primary motivation for this whole mess, his desire to create an empire and legacy for himself.
Right. I used your point to accentuate my previous post that agrees with you regarding this being more about the meth vs grey matter.
walt is not going out like that, its breaking bad (theme song) tight tight tight! <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/_38bhZDrT4E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Todd couldn't get the meth to have the blue coloring - so that alone tells Walt that Jesse is cooking it - he doesn't have to know the purity. The Swartzes were Walt motivation for building an empire - just because we didn't see them a lot doesn't mean they weren't in the back of his mind the whole time. He won't kill the Swartzes, because he wants to see them suffer - he wants them to know he's better/smarter/richer than them. All he has to do is "confess" that they were bankrolling his meth lab & their "empire" would be destroyed by the feds.
I thought using the theme song was a awesome touch. The episode was great, but Spoiler Andrea's death - while having a great 'impact' - was sooo dumb. Creepy todd giving you that psycopath smile and saying 'yeah I know jesse, he's right out here!' being enough for her to just open the door and come out into all 'Where? I don't see him - let me turn my back to you and leave my house open so I can get a better look!" was some horror flick level of stupidity. As great as the show is, this last season has been filled with a lot of stuff that's been a real stretch to buy into for me. A lot more than the other seasons. Still, the rest was a great setup for the last act. Looking forward to it.
I think those of y'all that think Walt cares that much about Grey Matter are wrong. The Grey Matter stuff has always been his motivation. That's what it is again. He was low on life, now he's found that motivation. He's clearly more concerned with the meth empire at this point. Wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear about Grey Matter again.
Was he ever all that mad at Schwartz? Seemed to me like he was more mad at himself for being a p***y.
The whole damn show is a stretch. Lol obviously you're a fan of the show. But damn! You must be one of nitpicking people that needs the satisfaction of feeling intellectual by trying to find an error or mistake in something. Its been 5 seasons and you still haven't this show is set in an alternate reality type setting akin to a comic book, or even X-files. For example aren't these things a stretch to you: 1. Almost 100% pure BLUE meth. 2. Walts superhuman intellect and lying ability. 3. The abq and deas inability. 4. The villains in this show have almost all been a stretch, Tuco, Gus, the twins, and now Todd. 5. Not to mention the whimsical murders and heists etc. That occur Yet you nitpick about a junkie making a stupid decision and call it a stretch...why? You must be watching it wrong.
Exactly this. The Grey Matter stuff just served as a catalyst for Walt's motivation to get revenge on the Nazi's and get his money back. His ego was challenged again in that scene, and Walter White isn't going down like that! We are not hearing from Grey Matter again. This parallels to Walt going into Tuco's office in the 1st season finale, and him creating that bomb substance and outsmarting everyone. That genius is coming back full form next episode for one last hurrah. Except this time it's the Nazi's and Lydia that are going to get it. He has all the motivation he needs, and nothing to lose now. Of course, Walt is probably going down with them, but it'll be a hell of a way to go. I'm curious as to how Jesse will play a part in all this. Does he survive? Does he kill Walt ultimately? One more week!
I still think he's rigging that machine gun he bought with a bomb. Sort of a Trojans horse if you will. I'm surprised Jesse never tried to choke out Todd with cuffs like Walt did Crazy 8.
