I honestly think Peja had the best jumper of all time. I absolutely loved his shot, it was just beautiful to watch not to mention, that team was soo damn fun to watch. Good job, Sacramento. Very well deserved.
Which players do you think don't belong? Nate Archibald (Cincinnati/Kansas City) - one of the greatest 'little' players to ever be in the league. 3x All-Star, 3x All-NBA First Team, 1x All-NBA Second Team, League leader in points and assists for the '73 season Mitch Richmond (Sacramento) - 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA Second Team, 2x All-NBA Third Team, '95 All-Star Game MVP, part of Dream Team III. Arguably the King's first star since they moved to Sactown. Chris Webber (Sacramento) - 5x All-Star, '99 Rebounding champion, 1x All-NBA First Team, 3x All-NBA Second Team, 1x All-NBA Third Team. Would have led Kings to title if not for fixed WCF. Fans - Ok, admittedly lame. Definitely doesn't belong Bob Davies (Rochester) - 4x All-Star, 4x All-NBA First Team, 1x All-NBA Second Team. Part of NBA 25th Anniversary team. He helped bring the franchise their first and only title. Maurice Stokes (Rochester) - 3x All-Star, 3x All-NBA Second Team, NBA ROY ('56). Career tragically cut short by injury; newly created 'Teammate Award' named after he and Twyman. Oscar Robertson (Cincinnati) - C'mon, he's the Big O. Self-explanatory, he's their best player ever. Vlade Divac (Sacramento) - 1x All-Star, received Walter J. Kennedy Award in 2000. Part of contending King teams Jack Twyman (Rochester/Cinncinnati) - 6x All-Star, 2x All-NBA Second team. Newly created 'Teammate Award' named after he and Stokes, the man he would take care of after his dehabiltating injury. Sam Lacy (Cinncinnati/Kansas City) - 1x All-Star, franchise leader in rebounds, steals, and blocks. I mean, its hard to say they all don't belong on their. 'The Sixth Man' could be cut obviously. Vlade Divac didn't accomplish as much as you'd think. Twyman and Stokes are forever linked; cut one and you'd have to cut both.
^ I'm on my phone so will keep this relatively short 1. Kings have the most retired numbers next to Boston...a team who never changed cities and has the most titles ever. 2. The Lakers only have 7 numbers retired. And do not have George Mikan's number retired. Yet have the second most titles ever. 3. George Mikan was better than all the Rochester Royals combined 4. Based on those facts the Kings have a ridiculous amount of numbers retired with nothing to show for it. 45 consecutive years before Webber of no team over .600. And their playoff record in that time is appalling. Look, back in the day when I played HS ball the numbers 6,7,8,9 were not allowed onany jersey, because the ref has to show your number during a foul with two hands. Each having only 5 fingers. So there were only 26 possible numbers. At some point, the NBA allowed more numbers, probably because Boston asked for it. So Since the Lakers didn't retire Mikan's number then why should Sacramento carry on all those per-1955 players too It's just silly because they have nothing else to put on their rafters. After Rochester, did they ever even with a Division title, until Webber. Nothing to put on your rafters except a bunch of players from the 40s and 50s. Look at Cleveland, do you honestly believe any of this guys are deserving of their number never being used again. Not at all. But they need sumpin on their rafters It's just a stupid marketing thing If the Lakers chose to start from scratch with no Mikan or anyone else from their 3 or 4 titles back in the early 50s. Then pride dictates that the Kings should have dropped their 4 numbers from that era and 40s as well bottomline So to answer your question: Kings are just doing marketing to retire numbers because they need banners. All of Rochester, Archibald, Richmond and Divac are a stretch for reasons I gave above Cleveland is the worst though
Peja, Peja, Peja, not only was your jumper a beauty, but even your... <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xu0uvydwUTA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Has anyone else made this type of pass in the NBA? Just wondering if anyone knew.
yeah, that should compete as one of the Top 10 cool moments of passes that I've seen live. But Williams, Webber, Divac and Miller and another 5 Kings were better passers than Peja. So, let's not get carried away.
What? Obviously Peja had a great shot, but fun to watch, and that other guy saying it was a beautiful jumper (don't know how to quote both)? As far as form goes Peja had one of the most f'd up shots of all time in the NBA. I know it was very effective, so it doesn't matter, but I'll always remember him more for that crazy awkward form than anything else.
Good guy, Good team mate, Good player but to me doesn't deserve to have a retired jersey. just a random question, does anyone think anyone on the current Houston team will have a retired number? no need to go on a long tangent saying "if we win a championship" just a yes or no and state the name if yes...
Parsons has a higher celling then Peja and has the potential to be a better two way player then Peja ever was. But don't get it twisted in his prime before the back problems Peja was a beast. We could drop 20 like it was nothing. His D was awful though.
Peja was one of the best pure shooters in basketball. But that pass was probably the most memorable play of his career.
And he was a renowned playoff choker. I'm sorry...Webber, Divac and Peja don't warrant never using their numbers again. At best, pick just one...and that's Webber. Here's my criteria...which is very similar to the Rockets (except for Drexler, which I disagreed with) DONT RETIRE NUMBERS just to make people happy. It has the potential to interfere with Free Agent acquisitions, if you make some Superstar change his number Retiring numbers is not the same as HOF. Next to putting up a statue for a players, retiring the number is permanent....and the ultimate honor. Use it wisely. The player either has to be the best player on a Title team, or he has to be drafted by you and define an entire era of your franchise. Yao doesn't fit that criteria, imso Rockets exceptions seem to be unique...Drexler is Houston, and major contributor to a ring. I still don't agree with his number gone. Rudy was better than Peja, and had a illegal, devastating injury....and he was our coach that got Hakeem to FOCKASS. His name is synonymous with our Franchise. We want his name in the rafters so new players know what and who we are....what defines a Rocket player. That's R u d y Moses was just a beast, and he helped us beat the Lakers for the first time. imso, only Oscar Robertson fits that criteria for the Kings. They should have dropped the Rochester numbers just like the Lakers dropped the Minny numbers/Mikan.
I love how somebody who's on a Rockets board is criticizing what the Kings feel like doing to honor their best players. Its like people think there is some "rule" for retiring a players number league wide. If the team and fan base feels like a certain player deserves to have their number retired then let them. Obviously Peja was a HUGE factor in the most successful run of Kings teams ever. Let them retire his jersey if they feel so inclined. Just because YOU don't agree with it, doesn't mean its not deserved. All those players listed above meant something to them so let them retire their jerseys and stop using the Lakers as some benchmark. It's the Kings, who the F cares what the Lakers retire? It's ridiculous.
just my opinion. relax, broseph. Do you even have an opinion...or do you just play on this board by sniping other people's opinion? You're a dork. here's another opinion. Peja is just a 6'9 version of Kevin Martin. Fool's gold. Martin would have been just as big a factor on that King's team as Peja. The person they should honor above Webber, et al, is Rick Adelman.
There's a difference between stating your opinion as an opinion, and stating an opinion as a fact. Yeah, but he wasn't. Sure, if they want to why not? Here is a list of all retired players and personnel. I guess half of these aren't deserving but some peoples standards... http://www.nba.com/history/team-retired-jerseys/index.html
Nope, Parsons isn't better than Peja. Peja was an MVP candidate for half a season one year. I don't see Parsons EVER being an MVP candidate for even a month in an NBA season. I'm also not sure why people say he's a poor defender, just ignorant. Every person in the world thinks that if you are white and a jumpshooter you are automatically a horrible defender. As for the choking part, yeah, that is his one downfall. He's not even the same player as Kevin Martin. Peja is a much better off the ball player and his game is running off of screens and shooting. Martin does none of that.
